Posted on 10/08/2016 5:02:00 AM PDT by daniel1212
More than half of all U.S. Catholics (52 percent) would cast a vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton if the election were held today, compared to just 32 percent for Republican Donald J. Trump...
More than three in four (76 percent) non-white and Hispanic Catholics would pick Clinton, with 13 percent choosing Trump.
Among white non-Hispanic Catholics, Clinton holds a much smaller lead, 44 percent to 41 percent....
Six in 10 (62 percent) white evangelicals say they would vote for Trump today, while 47 percent of white mainline Protestants pick Trump.
That comes from a new survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, whose findings mirror a similar poll conducted earlier this summer by the Pew Research Center.
Trump’s trouble with Catholic voters was foreshadowed during the primary season, when a group of reliably conservative Catholics urged their fellow believers in the Republican Party to resist Trump, even after he had all but sewn up the nomination.
Those concerns were renewed this week when The Hill reported on comments made by the newly tapped C.E.O of the Trump campaign, Stephen Bannon. The former head of the conservative website Breitbart News had accused the Catholic Church of supporting immigration reform only to boost its own membership.
“I understand why Catholics want as many Hispanics in this country as possible, because the church is dying in this country, right? If it was not for the Hispanics,” he said in March during a radio interview with Princeton University Professor Robert George..
Nearly seven in 10 (68 percent) of U.S. Catholics say they support same-sex marriage, up from just 35 percent in 2003. At the same time, Catholics are about split when asked if support for same-sex marriage goes against their religious beliefs (45 percent say that it does)... of the Catholic “Never Trump” movement.
About six in 10 Catholics (63 percent) say businesses should not be allowed to refuse services to gays and lesbians based on religious objections.
When it comes to how friendly religious institutions are to L.G.B.T. people, Catholics think better of their church than the American public does. Almost half of all Americans consider the Catholic Church to be “somewhat or very unfriendly” to L.G.B.T. people, with 35 percent seeing the Catholic Church as friendly.
The numbers are switched for Catholics, with 49 percent saying the church is friendly and 45 percent who say it is not.
While U.S. bishops have made fighting same-sex marriage a priority for several years, just 37 percent of Catholics report hearing the issue discussed by their priest in the past few months.
Your soul. Believe what you will.
Do you know, and have you read of the statements of faith of every single non-Catholic denomination?
I don’t know how many *Protestant* denominations are out there. Depends on who you are asking.
Evangelicals don’t consider themselves Protestant.
And even that term is being corrupted.
There are those who are trusting Christ for salvation and Scripture calls them *Christians* and there are those who play church.
Those who are actually trusting Christ for salvation do not associate ourselves with those who play church, not that we don’t interact with them on a personal level, but rather don’t identify as one of them.
Those who trust Christ for salvation realize that denominational labels are meaningless. God doesn’t save denominations, nor is He impressed with denominational affiliation or membership.
He’s after our heart, individually.
The links you posted, you mean you actually posted links that prove your argument that that the Public Religion Research Institute, and by implication, Pew Research and all others which conflate with the Public Religion Research Institute findings on Catholic supports of liberals, are to be dismissed since they are shown to be spurious, contradicted by other research orgs on this matter? Since you never could, it is you who looks like a Catholic talking parrot.
No, it doesn’t.
If that’s the case then all manner of religions are more valid than Catholicism because they’ve been around longer.
Adherence to the integrity of Scripture makes the best case, far more so than longevity.
FWIW, Francis is playing pope. You are weak on that argument.
LOL- your stupidity is endless....if you consider the sources of those polls you references anything other than uber left wing despite the evidence and links i posted, you really are guilty of willful ignorance...
and sorry- unlike your ignorant mind who chooses to brand everyone with a broad brush (see your never ending anti-Catholic/anti-Christian posts) i understand Catholicism is just a religion and like all others, and is not the end all but a means to the a greater end...
please don’t waste the resources of this fine site with another lame and empty response...
He gained a stronghold in Mary worship.
The apparition insisted on a church built to Mary, and promises made about praying the rosary. That is not directing people to God.
And even if they are directed to God, that doesn’t mean they are saved. Scripture refers to those who have a form of Godliness but deny the power of it.
Jesus said that there would be many on that day who would say, Lord, Lord, didn’t we (fill in the blank) in your name, and He’s going to tell them to go away that He never knew them.
Getting people to Jesus is meaningful.
Getting people to *God*, not so much, especially if all it does is make them more religious instead of giving them new life in Christ.
Now you have really marginalized yourself as one so desperate that you will go to even more wholly unsubstantiated extremes. Other than your absurd reasoning that impugning Catholicism renders one to be a liberal, or that sometimes using what you refer to as liberal sources for data means one is liberal (so much for numerous FR articles), i dare you to substantiate where i evidenced i am a left winger, or have any affiliation with the Democratic Underground. And resorting to "daniella" is consistent with your manifest immaturity.
Again, put up or shut up.
your postings which are reliant on left wing polling expose you for the closet left winger you are...
your judgemental anti-Catholic/anti-Christian broad brushing is against everything Christ preaches...enjoy your holier than though time on the internet- if you truly understand the teachings of Christ, and you obviously have no clue, you would understand your damnation of others will lead to your eternal damnation.
Dude, you are only manifestly speaking to yourself, resorting to mere ad hominem due to the utter lack of a valid argument. Once again, in order to prove your bare premise, you need to show that the Public Religion Research Institute, and the multitude of polling agencies which also testify to Caths voting as per its findings, must be dismissed since they lack confirmation and are contradicted by other polling agencies.
Until you can do that then you are the one wasting the resources of this fine site with another lame and empty response, even resorting to charging me with what all can see you are guilty of.
Without Mary the Catholic can do nothing seemingly. That’s what was gained.
Many non-Catholic Christians aren’t Protestant; their faiths were created centuries later. I spoke of the Protestants (those faiths born of the reformation, from which we derive the word “protestant”); they have folded on everything (though some adherents will point to their pocket of believers and deny that).
Where are your polls from conservative sources that prove Dan wrong?
We’re still waiting to see them.
Prove to us that the majority of Catholics don;’t vote liberal and haven’t done so for decades.
Give us something FAR MORE substantial than your opinion and juvenile attempts at insults.
Then once again, PROVE YOUR PREMISE!!! Prove that the numerous polling agencies which report findings which impugn Catholicism (as per the article) are all liberal, and are to be thus dismissed, since they lack confirmation and are contradicted by the findings by other polling agencies.
your judgemental anti-Catholic/anti-Christian broad brushing is against everything Christ preaches..
Which is another vain argument by bare assertion, which has no more substance than your premise that you rely on to dismiss negative Catholic reality.
Whatever my opinion of him, Francis was elected by the only means we use; if God would simplify the process many of us Catholics would deeply appreciate it.
Any faith that keeps its basic tenets for millennia (including those that pre-date Christianity) will hold their adherents as long as they remain consistent; once they modify them to fit secular modern values (or lack of them) they are done. While the Catholic Church certainly has issues with declining membership in the West, they are nowhere near the problems facing Protestant denominations that have for all intents and purposes disappeared. The political activists that use the remaining buildings are not even heretics at this point; they are simply political activists. An Episcopal Church near my home has an array of flags in front: Puerto Rican, rainbow, ANC, etc. - basically demonstrating their political rather than religious thrust.
OK, so THOSE Protestant denominations are the ones that Christians, those born again believers, have distanced themselves from due to their abandoning adherence to Scripture.
And what they do with their official positions are gay marriage, abortion, etc, is their own choice and not a reflection of all who name the name of Christ.
Nor am I answerable for them simply because they are not Catholic.
And, no, I don’t have a faith that came years later than other belief systems because I am not putting my trust in a belief system or church or denomination, but rather a Person.
Anyway, it’s almost tomorrow so I’m done for the night.
Last i checked, it was those who hold most strongly to the authority of Scripture that testify to being the more unified in basic conservative beliefs, if not completely. Yet it is always a remnant that shall be saved.
I don’t see that God gave any instructions at all in Scripture for selecting someone to the office that the Catholic church calls *pope*.
If anyone needs to simplify the process, it’s the organization that created it.
Jesus is mentioned numerous times in the rosary, including in every Hail Mary. The mysteries center around Him, as does the Apostles Creed.
the sad thing is you really think there will be no repercussions for the way you judge people or groups...the fact you refer to them as vain arguments by bare assertion despite your postings which will be kept for all perpetuity prove the contempt you have for the Word of the Lord...
Jesus specifically designated Peter as the rock; if that means nothing to you (many people contest what that meant) then this discussion is meaningless and you’ll have to await judgment to discover whether you were right or wrong. He didn’t select John the Beloved (the only one to die a natural death), or any of the others; He chose the one who imperfect as he was, would draw a sword to defend Jesus. He chose the one who when the time came, insisted he not die in the same manner as Jesus because he was unfit to do so (resulting in his crucifixion upside down).
An omniscient God chose well, knowing the trials Peter would face and how he would face them. Jesus Christ knew 2,000 years ago we’d be discussing this on this very date in 2016; He certainly knew Peter’s fate even before He physically met him. He also knew what would result from the Protestant denominations’ failure to have a centralized structure; now you can’t find two that agree on anything.
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