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Hurricane Matthew Live Thread II
NOAA/NHC ^ | October 6 2016 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 10/06/2016 4:10:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Hurricane Matthew is big, bad and just downright scary, with iminent and sustained impacts to U.S. mainland. Florida Governor Rick Scott issued a state of emergency for all of Florida and disaster operations are activated. More than 1.5 million Floridians reside in current evacuation zones. Governor Scott has spoken with utilities across the state to ensure utilities are pre-positioned and there are no unmet needs. Multiple coastal hospitals have been evacuated. Meanwhile, feckless President Barack Hussein Obama is personally monitoring the progress of the storm.


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Hurricane Matthew Thread I


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: florida; georgia; hurricane; hurricanematthew; matthew; northcarolina; southcarolina; tropical; weather
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To: dirtboy

Took a minute to get it your humor:-)

A picture is worth ten million words if the goal is to keep people out of cars in flood zones. Dirtboy, do you have a credit for this one?


1,501 posted on 10/10/2016 11:24:26 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: The Westerner

https://www.wunderground.com/news/hurricane-matthew-southeast-updates


1,502 posted on 10/10/2016 12:47:15 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: The Westerner; caww; dirtboy

The current word from Duke Power is don’t expect power until Sunday. I’m hoping they’re pulling an Engineer “miracle worker” Scott gambit of lowering expectations. I don’t believe this is the case, however, as both power stations that handle my area are under water and it’s still rising, with the rivers and creeks not expected to crest until Wednesday or Thursday.

I’m combining this reply to you with a question from Caww about what caused the drowning of 2 people near Cartoon. If you check the pic posted by dirtboy in post 1466 you can see that the car is trapped on top of a drainage culvert. What seems to have happened was car’s occupants were driving along that flooded stretch of road and attempted to drive though that stretch where the water was flowing across. They could not know that the culvert was there and the current was washing the dirt around it out from under the pavement. When the car passed over that weakened spot the extra weight caused it to collapse. It happened so fast that the car was trapped and they couldn’t just drive on out. You’ll notice the car wasn’t actually “swept away” by the current - it happened so fast they never had a chance.

It was a tragic combination of ignorance, bad judgement and bad timing/luck. They should not have out driving, of course, but they also had no way of knowing about the hidden weakness of that particular spot on the road.

P.S. - while I’m still online I’ll take this opportunity to vent a little righteous anger. I’m on Duke Power here, and we won’t power till Sunday. Two miles down the road, Brunswick Electric Membership Co-operative (BEMC) customers had power yesterday afternoon. How could this be?

Well, 20 years or so ago, BEMC, being a member owned and managed Co-Operative, had the forsight to plow their profits into upgrading and storm-hardening their infrastructure. They spent the money to purchase high ground for power stations and to put power lines underground. As a result, even in the late 1990’s, when we were “hurricane alley”, with Bertha, Fran, Floyd, etc al. pounding us in rapid succession, Brunswick Electric service was back up way beforehand Carolina Power+Light (later became Progress Energy, then Duke Power).

After Floyd, CP+L (and successors) did put some power lines underground and made “some” improvements in sub-stations, etc.. They did next to nothing, though, to move vulnerable transformers and sub-stations to higher (more expensive) ground. They preferred to leave them in the swamps (cheap land, naturally) where they’re under six feet of water and the crews can’t even get to them for several more days.

So here we are today, with friends two miles away with power (and we’re happy for them), and folks here in town with no power anytime soon. The lesson in all this is to see the danger in allowing for-profit entities to operate as “public service utilities”, with all them concomitant benefits they get (tax breaks, regulatory benefits, etc.) While their management’s real priority is simply maximizing profits for stockholders’ dividends, rather than investing that money into insuring they have the infrastructure and resources to handle disasters like we’re facing now. In short, the way it’s being done, these “public service utilities” are a fraud much like so-called “free trade”.

Okay, rant off, I’m done. I’ll be my lovable, smiley self again once I get a bath and some cold to drink, I promise!


1,503 posted on 10/10/2016 3:07:11 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (gh)
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To: Cementjungle

you are brainwashed by the communist media .you have no idea who these people are . the media are the enemy


1,504 posted on 10/16/2016 5:29:07 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: caww
you take the side of the communist media over a freeper and drudge. no wonder we are in trouble . you brainwashed puppets of the media believe they are legit.

Maybe you should go work for cnn as you help the communist media. no matter how you try to spin it this Mathew was not the cat 4 catastrophe the media falsely made it out to be

1,505 posted on 10/16/2016 5:38:35 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: caww

Step out of the matrix created by the evil communist media and step into reality.


1,506 posted on 10/16/2016 6:11:34 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: alancarp
Yeah I'm crowing about it now. Maybe you ‘d better rethink your trust of the media and government agencies and stop bashing those that are for truth like me.The media lied about Hurricane Mathew being a cat 4 threat to Florida. the media and gov are the enemy .

Okay, you’ve marked your territory and everybody is aware. You can crow about it if you’ve proven right and the rest of us will breathe a sigh of relief at being wrong... which would be a good thing for Florida. Meantime, we’ll go with what the forecasters are telling us and that’s for something at least 140mph at landfall... and it’s now at 140 in the Bahamas on the 11am advisory.

1,507 posted on 10/16/2016 6:25:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: caww

Guess you forget the media and government agencies predicted a 140 mph winds at landfall for Mathew , landfall in Florida with 140 mph winds . So yeah the media and gov lied. Step out of the matrix. the media and gov are the enemy cause they are liars for one thing and they are lying to destroy us Americans.

Drudge was right again


1,508 posted on 10/16/2016 6:49:45 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: Lil Flower

Guess you forget the media and government agencies predicted a 140 mph winds at landfall for Mathew , landfall in Florida with 140 mph winds . So yeah the media and gov lied. Step out of the matrix. the media and gov are the enemy cause they are liars for one thing and they are lying to destroy us Americans.

Drudge and I were right again.So I’m vilified on a conservative site for exposing the liberal media lies and posting truth.No wonder we are in trouble .the media is the problem and the enemy .whose the joke you are cause the media controls you


1,509 posted on 10/16/2016 7:04:40 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: Democrat_media

Blah, Blah, Blah. A week later and NC is still under water.


1,510 posted on 10/16/2016 7:06:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)
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To: Rebelbase

Guess you forget the media and government agencies predicted a 140 mph winds at landfall for Mathew , landfall in Florida Florida with 140 mph winds . So yeah the media and gov lied. Step out of the matrix. the media and gov are the enemy cause they are liars for one thing and they are lying to destroy us Americans.

Winds were 45 mph in Florida .so your commie media lied lied and lied again. NOt 140 mph but 45mph . huge difference

Drudge and I were right again.So I’m vilified on a conservative site for exposing the liberal media lies and posting truth.No wonder we are in trouble .the media is the problem and the enemy


1,511 posted on 10/16/2016 7:08:36 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: Democrat_media

Your lack of compassion for NC is noted.


1,512 posted on 10/16/2016 7:10:42 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)
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To: Rebelbase
I'm talking about what the media predicted for Florida you lying communist. It wasn't the hurricane of the century that destroyed Florida that the media predicted
1,513 posted on 10/16/2016 7:13:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama has given away the Internet to the UN which 57 Muslim countries control)
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To: Democrat_media

Blah, blah, blah.


1,514 posted on 10/16/2016 7:58:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)
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To: Democrat_media

Why keep beating a dead horse....Matthews gone.....pick you’re bone with someone else.


1,515 posted on 10/16/2016 8:14:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: Democrat_media
you are brainwashed by the communist media .you have no idea who these people are . the media are the enemy

I totally agree that the media is the enemy, and I do believe I have an idea who these people are.

I don't think however that I'm brainwashed by the media at all. In fact, my default position with anything coming from them is "it's probably a lie, if interested, investigate".

Not sure why you think I'm fooled by the MSM... they're the last ones I would trust on pretty much anything.

1,516 posted on 10/16/2016 9:34:57 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Democrat_media

Weather models are neither media nor government (and no - I don’t trust either of the latter pair). The models failed this time because they did not forecast the formation of a double eyewall that ultimately spread the energy of the storm to a wider area.

Sure the massive win predicted didn’t get to shore - and that was merciful; it saved a bunch of lives - but the effects are still being felt because Matthew ended up being bigger. NC’s flooding is still causing issues, for instance.

You can do the victory lap - that’s fine. But this wasn’t hyped without cause - it was still a whisker away from being an incredible disaster on the Fla east coast.


1,517 posted on 10/17/2016 8:08:26 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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