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In Arizona, Parents Could Go to Jail for Changing Their Kids' Diapers
reason.com ^ | Sep. 19, 2016 1:00 pm | Lenore Skenazy

Posted on 10/03/2016 9:39:22 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

What's the difference between a parent changing his baby's diaper and a child molester fondling a 12-year-old's breasts?

In Arizona, that's a trick question—because, legally, there is no difference. In a state Supreme Court ruling that came out last week, the justices determined that intentionally or knowingly touch the private parts of a child under age 15 is automatically a felony.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; US: Arizona
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To: Zathras

You’d be charged with a felony under the Toxic Substances Act (or some law like that).


41 posted on 10/03/2016 11:22:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
What about physicians who give physical exams to boys and girls under the age of 15?

Hopefully physicians will be able to afford good attorneys who can fight this. It's the low-income young couples who will be caught up in this. Their lawyers will advise them to settle - "it's the best avenue for you to follow, to avoid a trial" - they'll be told. Then down the road, BOOM, Dad finds out he's registered for the rest of his life as a sex offender.

42 posted on 10/03/2016 11:26:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary's screeching voice is like the pipe organs of hell)
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To: aquila48

Case laws of course ARE legally binding but limited ONLY to the parties involved and any other case with the same facts and question of law. That is what precedent/stare decisis means. Precedent/stare decisis does not give a court power to make state or national law. That is patently unconstitutional.

Common law is a centuries-old series of decisions compiled over a long time that is useful for cases with similar facts and questions of law. ONE CASE may add to the common law for a particular set of facts and questions of law, but does not make sweeping national law

Our country has reeled WAY off course here.


43 posted on 10/03/2016 11:33:42 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: COBOL2Java

This would involve prosecutorial discretion - so a defendant probably wouldn’t be charged unless there were some extraordinary circumstances like him or her being a Republican running for office. /s


44 posted on 10/03/2016 11:41:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
What about physicians who give physical exams to boys and girls under the age of 15?

Or takes a rape kit on a victim.

45 posted on 10/03/2016 11:55:24 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

We would really have to have had entirely different legislatures for the past fifty years for me to assume this article is misleading.


46 posted on 10/03/2016 12:13:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TigersEye
Now all we have to do is find a government that cares what is or isn't Constitutional.

WE are the government and this crap should not be allowed to stand. It will end badly.

47 posted on 10/03/2016 12:18:57 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: Nifster

No, it is the dam congresscritters that worded and passed it.


48 posted on 10/03/2016 3:08:50 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

We are the sovereigns who choose our government and allow or disallow it to persist.


49 posted on 10/03/2016 3:38:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Questionable Hillary thinks Putin made me post this!~)
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To: COBOL2Java
Then, the defense attorney will tell the young couple "Just take plea bargain; it's the easiest way out." Everything's fine until years later, when Dad finds out he's a registered sex offender.

A friend took a plea on a drug possession charge, in exchange for no jail time. Then he finds out that having a felony conviction means you WILL NOT BE HIRED in any professional capacity. He was screwed for life.

50 posted on 10/03/2016 3:43:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625
A friend took a plea on a drug possession charge, in exchange for no jail time. Then he finds out that having a felony conviction means you WILL NOT BE HIRED in any professional capacity. He was screwed for life.

Exactly. Anyone who says "Oh, this will be overturned," neglects the shattered lives of those who will be the victims of this horrible decision until it is overturned. All it takes is some sadistic DA. Once you're on the federal sex offender registry, you're pretty much there for life.

But hey, gotta break a few eggs for good governance to occur, eh? Sigh...

51 posted on 10/03/2016 4:12:54 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary's screeching voice is like the pipe organs of hell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Aren’t layers and lawyer’s turned judges the best kind of people?


52 posted on 10/03/2016 4:19:20 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: polymuser

:o/


53 posted on 10/03/2016 4:20:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: never leave home without it.)
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To: SgtHooper

Agreed but the court upheld such broad language


54 posted on 10/03/2016 5:34:01 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Nifster

True! Good point! Thx.


55 posted on 10/04/2016 10:22:41 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: COBOL2Java

My mother used to have a saying, when bathing children of that intermediate age after infancy and before bathing on their own. She would tell them, “I’ll wash up as far as possible, then I’ll wash down as far as possible, then you wash possible.”


56 posted on 10/04/2016 12:30:44 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Just what is the difference between a "centrist democrat" and a "moderate republican?")
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