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Navy scuttles sailors' enlisted rating titles in huge career shake-up
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Posted on 09/29/2016 3:04:18 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Navy scuttles sailors' enlisted rating titles in huge career shake-up

By: Mark D. Faram and Sam Fellman, September 29, 2016

he Navy deep-sixed all of its 91 enlisted ratings titles Thursday, marking the beginning of an overhaul of the rigid career structure that has existed since the Continental Navy in a radical shift sure to reverberate through the fleet and the veterans community beyond.

Sailors will no longer be identified by their job title, say, Fire Controlman 1st Class Joe Sailor, effective immediately. Instead, that would be Petty Officer 1st Class Joe Sailor.

Officials say the controversial move will improve sailors' lives and ease their transition into the civilian workforce by broadening their skills in this tectonic shift in Navy’s personnel system to redraw the traditional lines between enlisted job specialties — a massive shake-up that is only beginning. Within the next three to four years, earlier if possible, the service plans to allow sailors to retrain in related skills, expanding their worth to the Navy while reaping broader assignment opportunities as well as increased advancement changes and greater access to special pays and bonuses that come with the most critical skills.

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To: DoughtyOne
NONE OF THIS EVER HAPPENS unless there is a willing cadre.

Officers by the thousands should and COULD speak with one, loud voice ... GFY, OBAMA !

21 posted on 09/29/2016 3:45:49 PM PDT by knarf
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To: NRx

yep


22 posted on 09/29/2016 3:46:25 PM PDT by knarf
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To: Sub-Driver

So we are going to drive subs without sonargirls (it’s an inside joke, folks) and machinist mates? Or is it that we will not have designations like STSSC(SS) or MMMC(SS).


23 posted on 09/29/2016 3:49:17 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Sub-Driver

End of a distinctive tradition for the navy. They other branches have been going by rank forever. They managed to survive.


24 posted on 09/29/2016 3:50:33 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: All

When I was in the Navy, being from the south, I always said “Yes sir” to the officers...

Once a Chief Warrant Officer told me to always say “Aye, Aye sir”...

Well, as I said, being from the south, I replied back “I, I sir”...He said no, it’s “Aye, Aye”...

So I tried again...”I, I sir”....

He just looked me, shrugged his shoulders and said, “Yes sir will do fine...”


25 posted on 09/29/2016 3:50:34 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I am a retired Machinery Technician Senior Chief not a generic E-8. This decision was made by wimps that I’d run out of the engine room in 3 days max.


26 posted on 09/29/2016 3:58:48 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Translation: people with little skill assigned to lowly positions were hurting their feel feels.


27 posted on 09/29/2016 4:03:13 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: knarf

I’d like it if folks would drag their feet for about 90 days.


28 posted on 09/29/2016 4:04:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (41 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is utter horsesh!t and i’m livid...


29 posted on 09/29/2016 4:04:20 PM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Sub-Driver

When I served in the US Army we had

Private E1,
Private E2,
PFC E3,
Corporal or Spec. 4, E4
Sargent or Spec. 5, E5
Staff Sargent, or Spec. 6, E6
SFC or Spec. 7, E7
Master Sargent or Spec. 8, E8
Sargent Major or Spec. 9, E9

But they did away with Spec. 5 thru 9, now.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1178103_The_old_Specialist_ranks______.html


30 posted on 09/29/2016 4:14:04 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m sure the real purpose of this is to get ‘man’ out of all the job descriptions.


31 posted on 09/29/2016 4:15:57 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew
You're right. Torpedoman becomes Torpedoperson.

Gunner's Mate becomes Gunner's Mate Non-Gender Specific

32 posted on 09/29/2016 4:19:48 PM PDT by 11th_VA (No Quarter for 'NeverTrumpers')
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To: dblshot

In the Navy I sailed in we would have referred to you as a Machinist Mate. Back in the day I was a BT.


33 posted on 09/29/2016 5:01:43 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Sub-Driver

I think somewhere the services have the “Petty Officer” rank. Should institute the “Petty Bitch” rank. They’re going to need it.


34 posted on 09/29/2016 5:58:12 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think that I shall be ... Able Body Seasick!


35 posted on 09/29/2016 6:00:29 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hopefully we will get Trump in office and he will appoint people who will reverse 8 years of liberal political correctness.


36 posted on 09/29/2016 6:25:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I reckon everyone will wear the same color jersey on the flight deck now.


37 posted on 09/29/2016 6:27:19 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: exDemMom
where you cannot tell by looking at a Soldier what his/her job is

If the soldier is in dress uniform you can identify their branch, so you have some idea of what they're doing.

They will be wearing branch brass, such as Infantry, Armor, Signal, Medical, or as in my case, MI.
The top two in the disk are for enlisted, the bottom two are Officers.


38 posted on 09/29/2016 6:59:20 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: truth_seeker

You forgot 1st Sgt E8. (never a good idea to dis TOP)


39 posted on 09/29/2016 7:04:09 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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To: aomagrat
I reckon everyone will wear the same color jersey on the flight deck now.

Nope. They will wear the color of whichever sexual identity they "self identify" with that particular day, or hour.

40 posted on 09/29/2016 7:07:52 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus Soli + Jus Sanguinis = NBC)
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