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Gravis Poll (Post Debate): Trump +5
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Posted on 09/28/2016 7:23:53 AM PDT by hawaiian

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To: LS

Interesting that Nate Silver adjusts the USC poll +4 for Hillary so it becomes a tie.


41 posted on 09/28/2016 7:59:35 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: hawaiian

The numbers of people who changed their minds must by nature underreported. People are not always aware of what convinced them to have a particular opinion or when they had really formed it.


42 posted on 09/28/2016 8:00:49 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)
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To: georgiarat

Silver is a Dem shill and is usually wrong, and should be completely ignored.


43 posted on 09/28/2016 8:02:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: hawaiian
Guys if this poll is remotely true, Hillary is toast. She will never do better and Trump will only get better in these debates.

That is the most amazing thing about this debate and the polls. Trump can do a lot better if he will prepare but she can not do better and still lost voters. Are pissed about the direction dems have taken American and they do not like or trust her.

It also shows how much power the MSM has lost.

I have never seen an election like this one.

44 posted on 09/28/2016 8:02:15 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: LS

Disappointing, but need to see internals and the source. RI was close a week or two ago. Thanks


45 posted on 09/28/2016 8:03:34 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: jeannineinsd
It was Hillary’s reaction shots during the debate. Her expression was condescending, she made faces and rolled her eyes. I couldn’t stand to watch her.

The funny thing is that Trump's reactions were not much better with the scowls but he was doing it every time she lied. Nobody wants to see a woman act that way but they expect it of Trump after watching him for years on tv.

46 posted on 09/28/2016 8:06:46 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

Did the Trump team say he was going to spend $140 million on ads?


47 posted on 09/28/2016 8:09:04 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: silverleaf; Mr. Mojo; Liz
She will never look better or do better than in Monday. And furthermore some of her dirty bag of tricks are being exposed.

This video strongly supports the suspicion that not only did she have the transcript for the evening, but she and Holt had prearranged signals to steer her the opportunity for scripted followup zingers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3XSuG5aCFGs

WOW! Excellent find. EXCELLENT revelation. Thank you.

HITLERY + HOLT = BUSTED!! The ol' hand signaling, reminiscent of 'The Sting.'

THE FIX WAS IN. No wonder the cheating Hitlery's zinger-timing was immediate and her answers impeccable all evening. Concur -- THIS was her very best shot and still it did not move the needle! (This video deserves its own thread)

48 posted on 09/28/2016 8:09:47 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Williams

I don’t think that woman ever laughs in her private life.

Scowling seems to be her natural state.

That’s why it always looks fake when she smiles. It looks put-on. It looks overdone.

This woman has all the charisma of a badger.


49 posted on 09/28/2016 8:10:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (41 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: HangUpNow

That arrogant smile she cops for EVERY occasion is a dead giveaway.


50 posted on 09/28/2016 8:10:56 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nohing penetrates it.)
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To: Liz
Yep, that same ol' plastic, frozen, arrogant evil smile. The kind of smile a psychotic clown or mass murderer wears during their interview with LE.

Did you catch any of the vid, Liz? The signaling by The Hag toward Holt was blatant.

51 posted on 09/28/2016 8:18:31 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Lady Heron
I agree Trump needs to slow down, focus and stay in a narrow field for the low-info crowd. Hammer key points. You had 30 years. You had an illegal server in your bathroom. You have 40k (or whatever the number is) missing emails. You created ISIS. And for GODS SAKE---no mention of Bill Clinton. Let his surrogates to this.

I think it took A LOT, a lot of coaching, prodding and convincing that this was the route to take. I also think it took A LOT for Trump to not go nuclear on her.

She just poked and prodded at all his sensitive spots. No one has probably talked like that to Trump since, I dunno, Marla Maples. He had to sit and take it.

In that regard, he did excellent. He did seem pretty well prepared--he had numbers and facts but they got jumbled in the rabbit holes he kept letting her pull him into.

But, do you remember some of your earlier arguments with liberals? They'd pull out the faces, the personal attacks, the calling you dumb and you'd get SO pissed and pulled into an emotional reaction, forgetting all your facts, etc. Now imagine your are a billionaire with an equally big ego and very used to everyone kissing your butt all the time.

He'll do differently next time. One thing we know about Trump, he aint dumb.

52 posted on 09/28/2016 8:18:31 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: HangUpNow

Excellent post and reference.

Too coincidental that the scratch coincides with her canned responses...


53 posted on 09/28/2016 8:21:27 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: MNDude

Ya, how funny,.

The media were all celebrating Hillary’s great night; the media declared that Hillary won the debate.

Yet almost all polls indicate that Trump was the winner.

then again, we know that the media types in the New York/Washington axis are liberal. And their liberalism prompts them to push Hillary, and declare how well she did in that debate.


54 posted on 09/28/2016 8:22:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HangUpNow

Yep, that same ol’ plastic, frozen, arrogant evil smile. The kind of smile a psychotic clown or mass murderer wears during their interview with LE.


She had red lipstick and lots of make up on. She reminded me at times of the Joker from Batman.

The optics and visuals from that debate were terrible for Hillary.


55 posted on 09/28/2016 8:23:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: riri

She just poked and prodded at all his sensitive spots


She and the MSM want this about Temperament,and all the things the Dems haven’t been able to fix.

Crime, taxes, poverty, security... Instead quotes from the 90’s and a focus on those who are on the dole and don’t care about anything other than “jimmies”


56 posted on 09/28/2016 8:24:00 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: hawaiian

The more shocking poll is the Gravis Minnesota tie with a D +9 sample.


57 posted on 09/28/2016 8:24:55 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: georgiarat

Guys if this poll is remotely true, Hillary is toast. She will never do better and Trump will only get better in these debates.


Agree she used her 2 minute drill plays when trailing...

I don’t see what “ new “ stuff she is going to throw at him and he has yet to unleash on her....


58 posted on 09/28/2016 8:25:30 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: LibsRJerks
She reacts like a typical lib — always with a smug, sanctimonious, “know it all” smirk.

People are getting sick of it.

Well characterized.

The Clinton Campaign and hard-core libs will never concede (never mind understand) the possibility that Hitlery's sanctimonious, arrogant smirk might be construed as The Hag laughing *at* the voters for being so stupid.

People *can* tell the difference between a warm, sincere, compassionate smile, and a smile that conveys disdain, mockery, and arrogance.

59 posted on 09/28/2016 8:25:40 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: LS

Nate is definitely a liberal but his models are good though he tends to adjust them right before the election to give a correct picture. At this point he can stand to be wrong but not too far off as he depends on revenue from the betting folk.


60 posted on 09/28/2016 8:26:06 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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