It's freedom vs socialism.
Law and order vs anarchy and chaos.
National security, national sovereignty, national survival.
Constitution and the rule of law.
Consent of the governed.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
God, family, country.
Hillary represents the enemy within regarding all the important issues.
I cannot watch Hillary for over a minute so I recorded in case something important happened.. I deleted the recording unwatched.
May this nation be saved from Hillary as CIC.
GO TRUMP GO!
Anyone who wants Hillary to make supreme Court nominations has gone completely insane. That right their would destroy America forever.
The height of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect the results to change. Hillary is a prime example of continuing to do the same thing. The country does not want that, which is why Trump will win.
Right at the beginning, Holt introduced the candidates, they shook each other’s hand, then they went over to shake Holt’s hand.
He spoke to them in a very low tone, probably thinking no one could hear him. But I picked it up. He said, “Mrs. Clinton, good luck. Mr. Trump, good to see you.”
From the very beginning, his bias was showing.
Trump survived, Clinton didn’t collapse. Now we will get days of media telling us how to think. Me, I think I will watch again tonight.
Jim,
Brilliant. Better poll question is who’s mind is going to be influenced by watching some or all of this?
However, Trump is inarticulate on intellectual ideas. The last part of your post is articulate. He seems unable to articulate the wider philosophical issues because he is at home in the world of engineering, numbers, deal making, strategy, winning. He’s a man you can trust, but can he defend us on ideological grounds? No. But we needed a fighter, and he fought the roughest fight of his life tonight against these sweetly polite ivy league bullies.
I respect his passion. I understand his sense of outrage. He made it through with his dignity in tact. He pulled his punches by not speaking to what he must know about her health diagnosis. Smart move that didn’t go unnoticed by me...he has a good heart.
I live how he stuck around long after the debate was over to answer the media’s questions. As long as he is talking the MSM isn’t. (Or at most in short bursts)
Jim, you are of course absolutely right in what you have written about what is wrong with Hillary.
No question she would be a disaster as a president.
But that doesn’t mean she didn’t clean Trump’s clock in this debate. She did.
I can only hope that Trump takes a lesson from this and comes back better prepared and more controlled in the next two debates.
A moderately read FReeper could have clobbered Hitlery.
bttt
Did Trump get too defensive at times, yes. Did he miss some opportunities, yes. But given that this was the first one-on-one presidential debate he ever participated in, I think he did just fine.
Every word you posted above, Mr. Robinson, is absolutely true. Those who were already in the tank for her or leaning toward her will like what they saw and heard. But people who are disposed to be fair to Trump heard and saw plenty to sway him to their side.
Tonight I went from just disliking her to genuinely hating her. Surely there are others who had a similar reaction to her viciousness. Before the debate most analysts were saying Trump couldn't "go over the line," but Clinton sure did. And so did that sorry excuse for a "moderator." By the way, how many times did Clinton throw out the signal to "fact check?" Three? Four? Holt definitely got the message.
Biggest lie of the whole show was Hilda claiming that the collapse in 08 was caused by trickle-down economics. It was caused by a combination of FANNIE, FREDDIE, and leftists making home ownership into a faux civil right and bankers developing a talent for wrapping those garbage loans up into securities and selling them to top customers calling them AAA-rated while shorting them at the same time.
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney tried to warn the American people about this in 04 and nobody listened, Barney Fwank and Chris Dodd were standing there shouting them down and calling them morons.
Missed opportunities:
DT could have said something about Hilda being carried off unconscious in a van recently and didn't.
DT could have said something about US warplanes being used as an ISIS air force over Syria recently and didn't.
DT could have said something about Vladimir Putin telling his military that if Hilda wins, they are at war....
MSM will say Hillary won.
We expect it as much as we expect rigged debates and faked polls from them.
Then again, the news would be fair - in an alternative universe.
I was too nervous to watch the debate, so I followed it on FR. Thanks for the forum, Jim.
Right on!
Trump underperformed.
1. On the cyberattacks, he should have brought up the e-mails, classified info, and the big checks from SA and China to Clinton foundation. The best way to prevent our enemies from getting classified info is to defeat Clinton.
2. On releasing his taxes, coming back with e-mails was ok , but what about releasing financials on the Clinton Foundation and Haiti charity? He could also have said that IRS is politically motivated and he would reform/eliminate.
3. On race, he should have said that he would bring back jobs. Talk about Detroit, jobs to Mexico, other things like school choice.
4. On ISIS, he should have pushed harder on the Benghazi fiasco and the arms shipments to Syria via Turkey.
5. As far as gun restriction for those on no-fly and terror watch lists, he should have said that with Herr Hilliary as president, all of the deplorables would be on the lists. These lists would become her enemies lists.
Clinton didn’t cough, swoon or faint. For the government media, that means she won.
Exactly. Ping
Holt made a mockery of this debate and did his job (being biased) well. Trump had to defend himself against TWO when it should have been just Hitlery. And to augment his biased questioning he interrupted Trump numerous times to keep Trump from answering (biased) questions instead of debating Clinton. Holt will get a big raise from someone.
The 2nd lost to the watch list.
Most of us have known for over a year that Trump was the last great hope at electing someone who would bring back traditional America. If Hillary wins, it’s over. This will be a different country after 4 or 8 years more of Obama 2.0.
Those who feel Trump screwed up tonight don’t get it. This is exactly the man we want in the White House. The more anyone disagrees with this statement, the more they would prefer to have had Mitt Romney or Jeb! running instead of Trump.
That said, I don’t think this debate will be very influential either way. If people are truly “undecided” after everything that has come out about Hillary, then they are probably beyond hope.