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I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh and have yet to see a Hillary sign. During the primary season I saw a lot of Bernie signs. I also have a camp in the Punxy/Brookville area and see lots of Trump signs and (so far) zero Hillary signs. Up there I see lots of home made Trump signs. Well made, 4x4 posts and thick plywood. Also I saw 1 “NO MORE CLINTONS!” SIGN.


27 posted on 09/26/2016 7:21:11 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si vis pacem para bellum.)
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To: Jaxter

Hillary is TOAST in PA... has been from the get go.

Doesn’t have any innate support ANYWHERE and absolutely zero enthusiasm.

Trump has more enthusiasm than ANY R candidate I have ever seen in this state, and I have been here since 86.

Here’s the raw reality folks:

08 Obama got just shy of 3.3M votes and had huge enthusiasm. 12 Obama got just shy of 3M votes and had far less enthusiasm than 08. In 08 Mccain put 2.65M votes in the box, and in 12 Romney got 2.68. Neither had any strong enthusiasm here... So a Generic R with no enthusiasm can get about 2.7M votes in PA.

Hillary is nowhere, NOWHERE near Obama’s support in 12. Hell she has nowhere the support KERRY had.... I believe she will be lucky if she can put 2.5M ishh votes in the box on election day in PA. I expect Trump to be around 3M votes in PA at least. He may even outscore Obama’s 12 haul depending on a few factors.

The idea she ever was going to hold PA, has been laughable from day one.

Even fellow democrat Senate candidate is running ads against sitting R claiming he has voted to send jobs oversees. Trump is going to take the rust belt.. Only states Hillary has a shot as holding are MN and IL there.

Trump is going to take the rust belt.. Only states Hillary has a shot as holding are MN and IL there.

I again think Hillary will be LUCKY if she get 60M total votes on election day, and holds her loss to single digits., and manages 10 ish states.

Those not from the rust belt aren’t getting the trend.. and its being ignored and its HUGE. Working class folks are ABANDONING the democrat party in DROVES... You are seeing in the rust belt the same thing that happened in the southern states, not a one time shift, but the beginnings of a GENERATIONAL shift away from the Demcorat party, much like the south did in the 50s and 60s and finalized in the 70s, and for much of the same fundamental reasons. The recognition that the party has abandoned fundamental tenants of good social constructs, and the working classes are witnessing the result of it. This could have happened long ago, but Republicans had not put up a candidate able to sell it up here in a long time, and the Dems had not quite go so insanely overboard and the damage of their policies were not so wide spread... Today, up here, the evidence is EVERYWHERE... Obama and the left finally crossed the rubicon... No one is realizing that it is the left, not the right that is in long term danger structurally. Assuming Republicans do not blow it, they are truly looking at a shift that will make the midwest and midatlantic as solid for them as the south for generations.. I don’t think ANYONE is remotely recognizing the truth here...

Yes Hillary is a disaster of a candidate... no doubt, but there is MUCH MUCH more going on here than just She’s a lying corrupt fraud. Its also bigger more than just Nationalism vs Globalism (though that is without a question the driving decision in THIS election)... but there is MORE going on here.... much more... and if Republicans are smart (big if I know) historians will look back on 2016 and it will be remembered as the year of the start of the loss of the midwest/midatlantic from the Dems.. literally this area could become as reliable as the south for R’s if they wake up, and don’t blow it going forward.

I know this is hard to see for most, especially those outside the area, this election is so dominated by individual personalities, that this larger message is being lost... but this isn’t just some Reagan thing where D’s here are going to go Trump and then go back to D... there is an undercurrent going on here, that is far bigger than a solo cycle... and its being completely missed because everyone is so focused on the surface frothing... and yes there is a lot of it, but this undercurrent, this is greater than a single cycle... its a fundamental shift that will reverberate for decades in American politics... its been building for a while... it probably won’t be fully recognized by most folks until long after the election is over... but Dems are losing far more in the rust belt than they know... or comprehend.... and its not just because Hillary is a lousy candidate.

To fully capitalize on this, Republican’s have to shift on a few things, and Trump is moving the party forward in a lot of ways, I don’t know if the powers that be recognize it, and I know some of their core constituencies won’t be happy as they are going to lose some of their influence... but if the leadership and party is willing to recognize and adapt, it will be able to accomplish something semi organically that they were never able to do, or never tried to do, systemically.

Time will tell.


40 posted on 09/26/2016 8:59:21 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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