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1 posted on 09/26/2016 6:21:25 AM PDT by Ravi
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I’ll hand it to Nate on one thing. He’s sticking to his methodology, even if he doesn’t like the results.


2 posted on 09/26/2016 6:29:35 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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He is at about 55% in the now cast. He still hasn’t flipped the final state to be winning on the “snake” (states lined up graphically in order of probability) but everything on his side of the line in the now cast is at 67% plus, and Hillary has four (Colorado, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Michigan) that she has only a week hold on that she has to sweep—with the odds being that she won’t do that the majority of the time, and won’t pull in anything else to compensate.


3 posted on 09/26/2016 6:30:50 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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This is big, I remember in 2012 Obama never dropped below a 60% chance in Nate's polls. And a lot of liberals treat Nate Silver as the messiah of polling, this will send them into sheer panic, especially if Trump actually takes the lead.
4 posted on 09/26/2016 6:30:59 AM PDT by apillar
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actually, Silver’s Nowcast projetion has Trump winning 55-45, with 276 EV’s; yet the coloration map he provides shows Clinton with 273...something wacky in his methodology...


6 posted on 09/26/2016 6:33:12 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Silver has the gravitas to adjust the poll numbers on his own - just look at how he flips all the Florida polls from Clinton to Trump.

I don't have that luxury in my forecasting model. Based on the polls as they are reported, I showed Trump at 43% as of Saturday. Late Sunday polls have pushed that number up slightly to 44%.

We will see after the debate whether or not Silver's poll adjustment forecasts come true or not. For me, I expect some will but I choose not to get ahead of the data. I prefer to report what the data actually is, and let the reader draw conclusions on whethe the model is wrong on the data is rigged.

-PJ

8 posted on 09/26/2016 6:37:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Young Nate will not be feeling very well today. And he will feel worse tomorrow and the next day. The Dark Blues are turning to Light Blue and the Light Blues are turning to Pink. I like the trend.

Thank you Nevada, Iowa, Ohio, Florida and North Carolina - your support is greatly appreciated.


14 posted on 09/26/2016 6:55:49 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you should have endorsed. Big mistake.)
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It's only a matter of time before Nate is forced to flip the states that will put Trump in the lead to stay. He's holding off as long as possible because he is worshipped by Democrats and he really, really wants to deliver good news for them. Maybe he's hoping that Trump commits a fatal blunder tonight and all will be well again (in his world). But he does have a reputation to preserve so in the end, he'll be forced to reckon with the fact that Trump has moved ahead.

In the meantime, he'll do his best to preserve the "horse race" as long as possible.

18 posted on 09/26/2016 7:03:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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People over at The_Donald have pretty good info about Nate changing the methodology by changing his “house effect” to keep Hillary ahead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/54kkhs/pathetic_nate_plastic_from_538_btfo_caught/


21 posted on 09/26/2016 7:08:45 AM PDT by Voluntaryist
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Libs are giving the guy a lot of grief on Twitter


26 posted on 09/26/2016 7:19:42 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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HRC over 50% though? That’s scary to me


28 posted on 09/26/2016 7:21:52 AM PDT by STJPII
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I love it when a plan comes to together.

MSM is panicking and the Washington Post’s wheeling out an editorial blasting Trump ahead of tonight’s debate tells you the election is over.

I’ve never seen liberals as panicked as they are now. What a beautiful sight! Things are looking up.


30 posted on 09/26/2016 7:25:50 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Nate Silver’s model is nothing more than a weighted average of all available poll data. The data is adjusted in two ways, but the adjustments are intended to promote increased accuracy, not favor either outcome. One adjustment is for house effect. There are some polls that historically have shown results more favorable to Republican candidates than the actual vote totals and some that are historically more favorable to Democrats. Silver computes an average value of this effect for each poll and adjusts the poll number accordingly.

The other adjustment is for the quality and track record of the poll. Even after adjusting for house effect, some polls have been more accurate than others historically. Since the average is a weighted one, Silver assigns weights to each poll. Those historically more accurate are assigned higher weights. Historically less accurate polls, new polls with no track record, and polls that use questionable methodologies are assigned lower weights. Polls done more recently also get higher weights than older ones.

The end result is that Silver’s opinions don’t factor in at all during the course of the campaign. Certainly the weights assigned to polls are subjective and do reflect Silver’s opinion regarding the quality of the poll, but these weights are set based on a polling company’s track record and methodology. This is done prior to the campaign, and the weights are set indepemdently of the poll result.

We may not have liked Silver’s predictions the past two Presidential campaigns, but the truth is that his predictions were just about dead on. Blame Obama and a couple of weak GOP-e candidates for that - it’s certainly not Nate Silver’s fault we lost. Given his record the past two Presidential elections, I am certainly taking his forecasts seriously. There’s no guarantee he’s right, but there’s also no evidence that he’s biased either.


33 posted on 09/26/2016 7:29:33 AM PDT by stremba
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Never seen this
34 posted on 09/26/2016 7:29:51 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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PING


39 posted on 09/26/2016 7:47:02 AM PDT by DrDude (This poll)
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Clinton 51.5% chance to win and Trump 48.5% chance.

These numbers are a win for Hillary. Trump needs to be higher by at least 5% just to beat the dead voters.

41 posted on 09/26/2016 8:32:21 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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46 posted on 09/26/2016 10:44:22 AM PDT by Voluntaryist
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I just updated my forecast model with the polls released today on RCP.

I now have Trump with an expected value of 259 Electoral College votes, with a 46% chance of winning. This is 3% higher than the weekend.

-PJ

48 posted on 09/26/2016 10:46:46 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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