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Interesting 4 statements on the Birther Issue
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Posted on 09/22/2016 2:33:28 PM PDT by DOC44

Interesting.     FOUR Simple questions from an attorney     Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney..... are there ANY logical answers? You be the judge......   Here's what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders?  Should they all be null and void?   Here are 4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney .... this should really get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan. For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.   4 Simple Questions ....   1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.'  So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?   2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father.  No big deal, right?  At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa."   This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?  Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate" (check it below) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_%28http:/en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Kenya%29    3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".   This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home," respectively.   The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?  (CHECK IT BELOW)  http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx   Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?   4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!).  Now we need a non-revised history book - one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals - to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?   Very truly yours,   RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB Attorney at Law 354 Eisenhower Parkway Livingston, NJ 07039 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-silverlieb-3145502a)

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens.   Send this to as many Patriots as you can! Ask your Republican friends in Washington D.C. If they have a backbone ... why in the hell can't they use it and get media coverage to explode this across our country? Impeachment in itself is not justice!    We are talking orange jumpsuit & long prison sentences.


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To: DOC44

The BC released on the Whitehouse.gov website is an obvious fraud. All of the above is true. Now what?


21 posted on 09/22/2016 3:13:01 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: DOC44
There are several errors in 'your' synopsis, but no matter.
What 0bama really needs to explain is how such an amateurish joke of a forgery was displayed on the White House website. Here it is with some of the layers moved around:
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22 posted on 09/22/2016 3:17:29 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress. Mark Twain)
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Kapiʻolani Maternity Home became the Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in 1931. The name was changed to Kapiʻolani Hospital in 1971. It merged with Kauikeolani Children's Hospital in 1976 and was called Kapiʻolani/Children's Medical Center from 1978

Got a link for this?

The first two are bogus, and easily debunked, but I've never seen a corrected link for the hospital name, just the information posted as if it were the truth regarding the 1970s name change.

23 posted on 09/22/2016 3:18:06 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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24 posted on 09/22/2016 3:18:15 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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25 posted on 09/22/2016 3:19:09 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I used the Wikipedia article on the hospital. Maybe they're wrong, but that's my source.

The thing about the email is that it's a good bet that when a women's and a children's hospital merged they'd work "Children" into the title after the merger. It's a lot less likely they'd call themselves a "Maternity and Gynecological" hospital after the merger.

That doesn't mean the birth certificate is legit, but people should do more research than the email writer did.

26 posted on 09/22/2016 3:22:37 PM PDT by x
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To: Bullish

And when Obama’s lawyers were asked to enter his birth certificate as a valid and legal document, why did they refuse?


27 posted on 09/22/2016 3:25:06 PM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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28 posted on 09/22/2016 3:27:44 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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He also tried at least 3 times. All were proven fake.


29 posted on 09/22/2016 3:28:38 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Trust Republicans Under My Presindency)
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To: x
The thing about the email is that it's a good bet that when a women's and a children's hospital merged they'd work "Children" into the title after the merger. It's a lot less likely they'd call themselves a "Maternity and Gynecological" hospital after the merger.

Yeah, the only place any reference to names is the "About Us" link at the top of the main page on the hospital link. It just says the latest iteration was 1978.

From the Hospital's own site: "In 1890, in response to an unusually high infant mortality rate in Hawaii, Queen Kapiolani founded the Kapiolani Maternity Home to care for Hawaii’s mothers and babies. The hospital later merged with Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital in 1978 to become Kapiolani."

It doesn't help.

30 posted on 09/22/2016 3:29:47 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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31 posted on 09/22/2016 3:30:57 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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32 posted on 09/22/2016 3:32:53 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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33 posted on 09/22/2016 3:36:51 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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To: DOC44

Remember how this all played out.
Trump challenged the imposter to show his BC and the deadline was reached.
Fake birth certificate was produced.
Next day the imposter said he killed Osama Bin Laden.


34 posted on 09/22/2016 3:39:19 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: DOC44

the quest for a real bc is valid but unnecessary

since O is NOT ELIGIBLE at any event (even if he were born on the Lincoln Monument)

his daddy was British/Kenyan. enough said. O is not eligible, period. end of file.


35 posted on 09/22/2016 3:41:46 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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36 posted on 09/22/2016 3:42:45 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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37 posted on 09/22/2016 3:44:06 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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38 posted on 09/22/2016 3:45:44 PM PDT by bushpilot2 (G)
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