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U.S. Navy’s New High Tech Destroyer Suffers ‘Engineering Casualty’
gCaptain ^ | September 21, 2016

Posted on 09/22/2016 6:11:49 AM PDT by artichokegrower

The U.S. Navy’s new high tech destroyer has been sidelined for repairs after suffering a seawater leak in its propulsion system less than a month before its expected commissioning.

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KEYWORDS: boondoggle; pos; wasteofmoney; worthless
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$4 billion dollar boat and it leaks.
1 posted on 09/22/2016 6:11:49 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

1) All ships leak

2) This one is still undergoing sea trials, and it’s an architecture that no other ship has, so there is going to be a learning curve. This is probably the most complex warship we’ve ever built. It uses technology that hasn’t been used in ships before, and even the familiar stuff is being used in new ways. This particular event is almost certainly operator error rather than a technology malfunction, but it’s still more likely due to the fact that this ship does a lot of things differently.

My attitude is that I fully expect several more events like this, over at least the next couple of years, as they find out what they can and can’t do, and get the rhythm of how to run the ship. If they’re still having problems like this 4 or 5 years from now, then I’ll have some criticism for them building a crap ship.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 6:19:02 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: artichokegrower

For 8, it would have probably sunk right after christening.


3 posted on 09/22/2016 6:19:38 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: artichokegrower

It gives new meeaning to the term “shakedown cruise.”


4 posted on 09/22/2016 6:19:59 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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It's not a manufacturing screw-up or quality control failure; it's an "engineering casualty."

How many admirals were involved in thinking up that euphemism?!?

5 posted on 09/22/2016 6:21:33 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Little Pig

Let’s hope it doesn’t go the way of the littoral combat ship. That looked like it was designed by a committee of idiots.


6 posted on 09/22/2016 6:22:12 AM PDT by meatloaf (I am one irritated Vet.)
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To: artichokegrower

Like anything electrical or mechanical, there is always potential for failure even at a cost of $4 Mil, thus the reason for what the Navy calls “Shake down” cruises. I would much prefer to know that the ship is ready for anything thrown at it than to have it fail when the sh&t hits the fan.


7 posted on 09/22/2016 6:22:45 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: artichokegrower

Besides, the Captain is James Kirk. Haven’t you seen Star Trek? Kirk’s ship almost always has some kind of disaster shortly after leaving dock.

As an aside, Captaining a new class of ship like this one is a sure sign of being a rising star, which means Cpt. Kirk will likely be given greater commands in the future. He should be just about done with his command tour on the Zumwalt when the Enterprise is ready to go down the ways.


8 posted on 09/22/2016 6:23:22 AM PDT by Little Pig
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Granted, though the current LCS design is heavily watered down. As I recall, the original ship would have been a real terror, and would have been extremely useful in e.g. the South China sea, dealing with all those “new” island bases the Chinese are building. Unfortunately, all kinds of budgetary things went wrong, and the ship class ended up neutered, with many weapons systems either cancelled or severely delayed. They still got useful lessons out of the LCS, though. The trimaran design is impressive, and deserves further exploration.

As I understand it, they’re going to abandon the existing LCS; my wish (and I’ve seen this echoed elsewhere) would be to transfer them to the Coast Guard, where they’d make formidable cutters. The big helipad on the trimarans seems purpose-built for the CG.


9 posted on 09/22/2016 6:27:32 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

What’s his middle name?


10 posted on 09/22/2016 6:27:53 AM PDT by OKSooner (She was practiced at the art of deception, you could tell by her bloodstained hands.)
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To: OKSooner

Unfortunately, not Tiberius, but we can’t have everything.


11 posted on 09/22/2016 6:29:49 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

Just axin’. :)


12 posted on 09/22/2016 6:31:23 AM PDT by OKSooner (She was practiced at the art of deception, you could tell by her bloodstained hands.)
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To: Little Pig

“1) All ships leak”

For $4,000,000,000 it better not.


13 posted on 09/22/2016 6:33:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Little Pig

Did they think to add seatbelts for the bridge crew?


14 posted on 09/22/2016 6:41:46 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Carl Vehse

Engineering Casualty is what they are called FReeper Friend. Been that way for a long time.


15 posted on 09/22/2016 6:49:41 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789)
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To: Little Pig

Excellent comments.

This is indeed an experimental ship. It points the way to the future and they tried to do things they had never done before. It’s not likely to be totally problem-free.


16 posted on 09/22/2016 6:50:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: artichokegrower

Contractors need to go to jail.


17 posted on 09/22/2016 7:00:09 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Rashputin

Nah, the armrests of the chairs fold in ;)

What’s funny is that with the tumblehome hull, the Zumwalt probably rolls more readily, which means that the bridge really will tilt a lot, especially during extreme maneuvers or if the ship takes a hit. So it’ll be more like the TOS Enterprise than one would think.


18 posted on 09/22/2016 7:00:09 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig
I recall reading years ago that they got away from that hull type exactly because it rolled more readily. They wanted a more stable platform and which helped with more accurate long range fire.

In the era of guided munitions that isn't as much of a problem but I still wonder why stability isn't as much of a concern has it has been until now.

19 posted on 09/22/2016 7:07:28 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Little Pig

“As I understand it, they’re going to abandon the existing LCS; my wish (and I’ve seen this echoed elsewhere) would be to transfer them to the Coast Guard, where they’d make formidable cutters. The big helipad on the trimarans seems purpose-built for the CG.”

Coast Guard won’t take them. Use too much fuel. Even the new National Security Cutters are Combined diesel and gas (CODAG). Coast Guard turned down the Cyclone Class coastal patrol boats several years ago.


20 posted on 09/22/2016 7:07:34 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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