3 Ways to Talk to a Liberal about Obamacare

Daily Signal ^ | 9/19/16 | Beverly Hallberg

[sally234]

Before March 2010, health care reform was already a divisive political issue. People chose sides for very personal reasons, which made it a difficult topic to discuss using an indoor voice.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Not going to read the blog, so if you can post the entire article please.

[laplata]

There is no way to get anything across to a liberal. They are not rational and have diseased minds.

[gr8eman]

No Thanks! All I would do is laugh when they start bitching!

[forgotten man]

I would not waste my breath.

[BlueStateRightist]

Criticize Obamacare to a leftist and you instantly become a Racist.

[Gay State Conservative]

Talking to a “progressive” about ObamaCare is futile.This is true because 99% of “progressives” either have trust funds or are welfare parasites.The only Americans adversely affected have been the middle class...those who actually *work* for a living and *work* for their health care.

[simpson96]

You can't argue with a crazy person who believes that 1 + 1 equals 3.

Better to devote your energies where they can actually do good.

[Ted Grant]

I always set the table by saying that Obamacare’s goal was to get health insurance to the 10% uninsured, which I say most people are sympathetic to. They always are pleased to agree.

Then I say that my problem is why change things so dramatically for the other 90% if you just want to help that 10%?

They never see that one coming.

[TigersEye]

3 Ways to Talk to a Liberal about Obamacare

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• 2) FOAD
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[ScottinVA]

Any interaction with a liberal should always begin with, “STFU and listen.”

[AmusedBystander]

It’s not possible to talk to a liberal. They already know everything.

[Trod Upon]

“What’s the matter, Snowflake? Premiums too high? Tough shit—YOU voted for it.” Then just walk away.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article sally234. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

It’s up to Constitution-savvy patriots to get low-information liberals, such people having no clue about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, up to speed on those limited powers.

More specifically, liberals need to understand that, since the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes, the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds wrongly established Obamacare outside the framework of the Constitution.

In fact, below are excerpts from the writings of several generations of state sovereignty-respecting justices, these justices clarifying that the states have never constitutionally delegated such power to the feds.

From related threads …

Considering the Obamacare insurance mandate for example, note the fourth entry in the list below from Paul v. Virginia. In that case, justices had clarified that regulating insurance is not within the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), regardless if the parties negotiating the insurance policy are domiciled in different states.

• "State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added]" - Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass." -Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.

• "4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphasis added] of indemnity against loss." - Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)

• "Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress." - Linder v. United States, 1925.

• "From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. ...” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

So what unconstitutional Obamacare actually did was to show how corrupt all three branches of the unconstitutionally big federal government are, the feds wrongly not securing the required consent of the Constitution’s Article V state supermajority before establishing Obamacare.

Remember in November !

Patriots need to support Trump / Pence by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support Trump’s vision for making America great again for everybody, but will also put a stop to unconstitutonal federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional inteference in state affairs as evidenced by unconstitutional Obamacare.

Note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

[Organic Panic]

People who are for it are the ones getting massive subsidies. It’s quite simple to stump them. Tell the liberal it is in their best interests to pay for your health insurance premium.

[Graybeard58]

Sally is a first class blog pimp noob.

Check it out:

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[CottonBall]

exactly. I don’t waste my time once I realize someone is a liberal. I’m applying that to RINOs as well these days.