Posted on 09/19/2016 8:06:46 PM PDT by Theoria
The Police Department in Tulsa, Okla., released video on Monday of an encounter during which, the authorities said, a white police officer fatally shot an unarmed black man who could be seen raising his hands above his head.
The department opened a criminal investigation into the shooting and said the Tulsa County district attorney, Steve Kunzweiler, would review its findings. The federal Justice Department opened a separate civil rights investigation.
During the encounter, which took place around 7:40 p.m. Friday, Terence Crutcher, 40, was shot once and killed by Betty Shelby, a Tulsa police officer since 2011, after the police received reports of an abandoned vehicle blocking a road, the department said.
Video recorded by a police helicopter and a patrol car’s dashboard camera shows Mr. Crutcher raising his hands, walking toward a car and leaning against it. He was then Tasered by one officer, Tyler Turnbough, and fatally shot by Officer Shelby, the department said, though the view from both cameras is obstructed in the moments before those actions.
Tulsa’s police chief, Chuck Jordan, said at a news conference Monday that Mr. Crutcher was unarmed and did not have a weapon in his vehicle. Shane Tuell, a police spokesman, said Officer Shelby gave a statement to homicide detectives on Monday morning. She is on paid administrative leave, the department said.
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Ok, since you are so positive of this, how would you show intent?
Yes, and the reason they are not more widespread is not that cops don’t want to wear them, its because the data storage is prohibitively expensive.
Lol, your threshold is so low he could have been having a heart attack and you'd justify shooting him over his "choice" to collapse instead of remaining standing per orders of the assassination team.
Forget it. You have no concept of what this country stands for, and in this case I'm too damn disgusted to argue at your level of crap.
Yeah, terabytes are what, under five bucks now?
It's a damn crime that you can sleep at night.
All that for “I got nothin’?”
Ok, since you are so positive of this, how would you show intent?
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As you can see this is turning into an FR contest to see who can best condemn the cop without any further investigation, and it isn’t the first time.
I haven’t seen anyone ask why there were so many police and a helicopter for a simple car in the middle of the road.
The guy had his hands up but was clearly not following their direction. He walked to the car, at the drivers door, the window appeared to be rolled down and he appeared to be reaching in. Bad move.
Just WTF do you know about storing hours and hours of video footage for sometimes years at a time for X amount of officers?
That’s right, just like the incident, you know nothing.
That would be your interpretation no matter what. I'm just cutting to the chase. Oh, don't let the video fool you - those four cops were in lethal danger. I predict medals for all of them, and the murderer to make Chief within five years.
Data storage is one of the cheapest things on the planet right now - especially to government money. You're the one talking out your @ss about technology trying to make endless excuses for cops.
Tell me, do you even know that we have a tripartite government - or WHY?
Whoops.
Betty’s going bye-bye.
Moonman, usually the bird is either in the hangar or not close, I think it happened to be close by luck.
The dispatch tapes are going to be interesting, because something had all the other cars going lights and sirens as if it were an officer in need of aid. If she called out with a man resisting arrest or detention, this would explain their haste. I suspect that was this deal.
I have been in similar situations and without knowing what was said between the decedent and the officer, who was actually on her way to a different call, we can’t really know what they heck was going on.
However, in my twenty plus years of experience, she said something this guy did not like and he was leaving. The vehicle parked in the middle of the road is suspicious, he is suspicious and should have been detained. I say the officer was not assertive enough and this turned into an opportunity for tragic misunderstanding/misinterpretation.
Or a split second that we cannot see where he goes into his waist band. Lots of guys been shot over that move and they know it will get them shot but do it anyway.
I can’t see where this guys hands wind up, but something made the female officer fire. It will be contingent on her to provide the reasonable, articulable belief that necessitated her action.
I personally would not have let him get back to that truck.
I will wait for the investigation. In the vast majority of these cases the police officers have been exonerated in court. Sometimes, they’ve even been exonerated by Obama’s Justice department.
I just leave this here for you.
http://www.startribune.com/some-police-suspend-body-cameras-or-hold-off-citing-costs/392984341/
Tell me, do you even know that we have a tripartite government - or WHY?
Stay on task. This is about an officer involved shooting.
POV cams are cheap nowadays. Russian drivers have had crash cams in their cars for years because insurers kept refusing to pay claims (hence all the YouTube crash videos).
The POV camera is on a 30 min continuous loop. When something happens you hit a button and the last 30 min of HD video and audio are saved permanently along with the live feed until you hit the button again.
My wife bought one for her car. It cost $69. She got the high end model with the infrared light source. I’ve seen cheaper ones on sale for $38.
That’s the only reasonable thing to do.
According to the article or one I read the Officers husband was operating the Helicopter. The whole thing is weird.
Maybe she did it on purpose to cause more race friction which is exactly what is going to happen.
still....didn't it used to be that cops shot to stop a perp, not necessarily to kill them?....arms,legs, etc?
Cops don’t make decisions about body cameras. Administrators make those decisions. It isn’t the storage that is the expensive part. It is creating and certifying a new “system of record”, then setting policy on how long the videos must be stored, and administering public access outside the court system. It doesn’t take long for that to add up to real money in a budget.
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