Posted on 08/27/2016 3:59:30 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
While Russia has deployed advanced warplanes to Syria including the Sukhoi Su-30SM, Su-34 and Su-35S, those jets are seldom seen carrying Moscow’s latest air-to-air weapons. More often than not, the Su-30SM Flanker-H and Su-34 Fullback are spotted armed with Soviet-era R-27 semi-active radar and infrared-guided medium range air-to-air missiles. It is only on occasion that Su-35S Flanker-E fighters are spotted with active-radar guided R-77 RVV-SD missiles—which are roughly the equivalent of the American-made Raytheon AIM-120 AMRAAM.
The reason Russian fighters are seldom spotted with advanced air-to-air weaponry are two-fold, explains researcher Mikhail Barabanov, editor-in-chief of the Moscow Defense Brief, which is published by the Centre for the Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST). One reason is that the Vympel R-77 RVV-SD is still comparatively rare in Russian Aerospace Forces service. The second reason is that the Kremlin does not consider an air-to-air confrontation with U.S. and allied forces to be likely.
“In the Syria RVV-SD missiles are used on Russian AF planes, but again, due to resource savings, not always. Rather, they are hung to show others—the USA and Turkey—that they have them,” Barabanov said. “Why do they not hang them permanently? The Russian AF obviously does not believe in the possibility of confrontation with the United States in the air. So why waste resources on bogus threats?”
While the Russian air force possesses active-radar homing missile technology, it only has a small number of those weapons in service. “The RVV-SD missiles are just beginning to reach de facto initial operational capability in the Russian Air Force - it is necessary to provide training, etc,” Barabanov said. “As with all aircraft missiles, the RVV-SD is a limited resource in terms of the number of takeoffs and landings onboard an airplane. At the end of this limited resource, it is necessary to send a missile to be repaired for life extension. Therefore, during peacetime, flying airplanes with expensive new missile does not make sense.”
Because Russia does not have vast stocks of RVV-SD missiles in service and its perception of the threat, Moscow is making use of the vast arsenal of R-27 missiles it inherited from the Soviet Union. “The Russian Air Force has vast numbers of old R-27 family missiles in warehouses—a resource which also expires.
Therefore, they do not regret using those and actively fly with them in peacetime,” Barabanov said.
While the Soviet Union developed the original variant of the R-77 during the 1980s, the Russian air force did not buy that version of the weapon following the collapse of the USSR due the lack of funding. However, Vympel did develop a less capable export variant of the R-77 called the RVV-AE, which it has exported to a number of countries around the world.
“The R-77 (Izdelie 170) missiles started serial production in the Kiev ‘Artem’ plant [in what is now an independent Ukraine] in the late 1980s with an initial batch of 200 missiles, all of which have long been used for tests in the Soviet/Russian AF. This missile is no longer relevant because of its obsolescence,” Barabanov said. “The Russian developer of this missile —Vympel in Moscow—has since the late 1990s serial produced an export version of this missile under the designation RVV-AE using foreign components and with reduced performance. The Russian Air Force does not buy the RVV-AE missile.”
It wasn’t until the early 2000s that Russia resumed development of a R-77 variant for its own use. “For the Russian Air Force, since 2000, Vympel—now KTRV Corporation—developed a new version of the R-77 missile under the designation RVV-SD (Izdelie 170-1),” Barabanov said.
“The first contract for their purchase was signed by the Ministry of Defense of Russia in 2009—along with the first contract for the Su-35S fighters.” It was not until 2011 that the Russian air force received its first RVV-SD missiles—and the service does not yet have enough of the new weapons in its inventory. “Deliveries started around since 2011,” Barabanov said. “Since then, there were two major contracts for the RVV-SD missiles—in 2012 and in 2015—with the last being worth 13.175 billion rubles with delivery expected in 2016-2017. With that purchase, there is now a sufficiently large number of RVV-SD missiles.”
It doesn’t matter, Tom Cruise will take of it I’m sure.
It would seem by the report that Russian pilots are getting their ‘flight hours’. The opposing force aircraft do not have the near-to-same technology, so ‘why waste the good stuff?’
I might equate these aircraft and external stores, with the Messerschmidts used during the Spanish Civil War, prior to WW2.
The easier way to determine a country’s military plans is to watch their logistics buildup. A president can’t threaten I’ll do such-and-such and be taken seriously unless he not only moves the assets into place but also moves the logistics to continue doing such-and-such. It is relatively cheap to move ships and planes temporarily but moving the logistics to keep them supplied can run into megamoney.
The North Koreans always test a new president. Shortly after Nixon took office they shot and killed two American officers on the South’s side of the DMZ. Nixon promised to bomb them back to the stone age. He activated the entire Pacific fleet and started moving supplies. The North hastily apologized and executed some poor slob. As I recall they were quiet while Nixon was in the White House.
Obama failed his test when they torpedoed and sank the South’s Chonan. He sent a “strongly worded” diplomatic note.
So, what exactly is the air-to-air threat over Syria that would require state of the art missiles? As far as my limited Intel capabilities go, ISIS doesn’t have any aircraft.
Are the Russians planning to fight us? Or Turkey?
If they aren’t why bother with the extra drag/weight of air-to-air stuff?
The Russians are using Syria to use up all that old soviet equipment and to showcase their new stuff. Their big bombers are dropping mainly dumb bombs. They’re supplying old T-55’s and old ATGM’s. They’re looking forward to future sales. With the added bonus of getting their elite troops blooded.
Story from the 90s goes that when Russian aircraft would go to air shows and arms expos with their latest and greatest planes and missiles, the missiles on the aircraft was their entire inventory of those missiles.
Tres chic!
We are the air to air threat. We are there on the sole mission of unseating Assad. They are there to support him. Also Turkey shot down one of their bombers. So there is an air to air threat there for them.
Maybe the Adder sucks.
Eh? What?
Good for shooting airliners and drones.
The R-77. The firs thing they did with that weapon was drop the folding fins, and started carrying them with the fins out.
Good job, Obie..
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