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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Russia will not go to war with the US... unless we start it. The groundwork has been laid for that throughout the Obama administration with this absurd vilification of Putin. To lump China and Russia together may make sense in terms of theoretical weapons, but it shows a paranoid and unrealistic understanding of international issues in the real world.


3 posted on 08/17/2016 5:42:56 PM PDT by opus1 (This is all getting rather confusing.)
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To: opus1
Russia will not go to war with the US... unless we start it.

"Barack Hussein Obama. Mmmm, mmm, mmm!"

16 posted on 08/17/2016 6:03:52 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: opus1

Putin is not a nice guy. But what he is, is predictable. His first priority...Russia.

Unlike most democRATS in the USA.


18 posted on 08/17/2016 6:12:11 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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Did it "show a paranoid and unrealistic understanding of the international issues in the real world" to "lump" Germany and Russia together on the eve of the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact which triggered World War II?

The duty of those who are charged with keeping America safe is not to listen to the bland assurances from those who have no skin in the game but to plan against even remote but threatening possibilities. In doing this they, of course, must make threat assessments and in doing that they are responsible for knowing history. Anyone who studies the history of the Russian Empire, the history of the Soviet Union, and the history of Vladimir Putin's regime must understand the inherent aggressive nature of these regimes.

Anyone today who discounts the danger of China as it muscles into the South China Sea certainly cannot be said to be planning to keep America safe in the face of threatening possibilities. Again, a quick reference to prewar Japan provides a historical model that is most "threatening."

As to the alleged "vilification" of Vladimir Putin, my neighbors here in Germany who have escaped from Ukraine do not share that view. The Poles do not share it, nor the Georgians, nor do many people in the Baltic countries. I suspect the victims of Russian hacking and cyber warfare do not share that view. The only safe attitude for a defense planner to take about Vladimir Putin is to assume an aggressive character


24 posted on 08/17/2016 6:21:33 PM PDT by nathanbedford (wearing a zot as a battlefield promotion in the war for truth)
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To: opus1; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
Russia will not go to war with the US... unless we start it. The groundwork has been laid for that throughout the Obama administration with this absurd vilification of Putin. To lump China and Russia together may make sense in terms of theoretical weapons, but it shows a paranoid and unrealistic understanding of international issues in the real world.

Sounds like old Neville, while Putin has just done what real liberals would love to do to Christians:

Russia's Newest Law: No Evangelizing Outside of Church | Gleanings ...

Thousands fast after Putin signs law banning evangelism outside of ...

Which means that the state Russian Orthodox church now has even more power to deal with its competition. A return to the "good ol days." C h e k i s t s i n C a s s o c k s : T h e O r t h o d o x C h u r c h a n d t h e K G B

47 posted on 08/18/2016 3:27:09 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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