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Donald Trump isn't a 'baby Christian'
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 08/16/2016 | Sally Vance-Trembath

Posted on 08/17/2016 6:11:26 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: SoothingDave

Yep, you want a good Christian (even teaches Sunday School to this day), then pick Jimmy Carter.


61 posted on 08/17/2016 10:49:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lera
She [Sally Vance (Hyphen) Trembath] is a JESUIt trained leftist and their goals are always the same and have nothing to do with Jesus. They are taught to complicate and legalize things so they create themselves revenue in the process until they suck it and you dry .

Not one Christian thing about her or the people who trained her.

Sally Vance-Trembath wants Hitlery elected because Hitlery thinks like she does and will help her and those like her put more rules on you that they can leach off of.

THAT IS EXACTLY what the Jesuits train people to do. Put people in bondage so they can rip you off.

Great rant!

The worse part of the "rip-off" is the rip-off of the soul. Secondly, the media is using Vance-Trembath and her supposed "Christian" expertise to define a Donald Trump whose heart she know nothing of as well as a Christianity we've already determined is counterfeit.

So here a pro-Jesuit "lecturer" like a Vance-Trembath -- who is already embedded in the theology dept of a University -- is actively advancing the Left and Elites' pro-Hillary, pro-illegal invasion position and subversion (as you so adeptly pointed out). In this case, it's strictly to support Hillary by discrediting Donald Trump in the eyes of certain sects of Christendom.

We'd both like to hear faux-Christian Vance-Trembath's critique of Hillary Clinton's depth "Christian-growth", but we know that critique isn't forthcoming. EVER.

This woman and Jesuits (like Pope Francis) are the Black Ops of anti-Christ Marxists (only in costume.)

Their mission is achieved via deception, subterfuge; they are political and subversive -- NOT remotely "soul-saving," and not remotely "Christ-like."

62 posted on 08/17/2016 11:18:25 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: SoothingDave; Lera
The need to sanctify the man by Christians is inexplicable.

No Christian group has been attempting to "sanctify" Donald Trump. Where has that the meme come from? It's quite enough that the man openly advocates an America where Christians are respected and un-targeted by an almighty anti-Christian govt apparatus.

What IS "explicable" is the Left and Media using whatever tools and power of suggestion at their disposal to help reduce Trump's support -- even if it means questioning his Christian "bonafides."

I'd LOVE to see and hear Hillary's public Christian bonfides and testimony. On that day there will be thunder and lightning and earthquakes in DC.

63 posted on 08/17/2016 11:30:22 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: artichokegrower

More concern trolling, artichokegrower?


64 posted on 08/17/2016 11:51:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("She has destroyed more emails than I have ever written. But then, I donÂ’t do yoga." --Rudy Giulian)
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To: artichokegrower

Condescending? What a total idiot! I listened to his talk with the Pastors & Pews attendees. I thought it was so sincere AND what really struck me was how Trumpian Trump was - he was very calm but very real - brutally honest with them - touching the ‘third rail’ of pastors vs IRS and how they have really accepted as unchangable the 501.3c IRS Johnson Ammendment silencing of their mouths. To me it was very personal - he was visibly touched and amazed on why his friends in the religious communities - leaders - had stayed silent for too long.

Go and listen to it for yourselves. You’ll see what I mean. It was basically telling them to wake up - don’t accept the schackles - shake them off. There’s a better day coming on Nov 8th - let’s make it happen! You guys will be free once again.

Btw, this coincides with an audio of a retired fireman’s testimony of a prophetic word that he felt the Lord gave him about Trump back in 2011 - that he’d be used to open up the Churches once again in America to be free and open to spread the Gospel like never before, before Christ’s return.


65 posted on 08/17/2016 12:01:41 PM PDT by time4good
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To: Georgia Girl 2
There is no such thing as a baby christian.

Paul would disagree with you.

First Corinthians chapter three and Hebrews chapter five.

You are correct in that you either are a Christian or you are not but Christians are expected to grow and mature.

I also do not classify Trump as a baby Christian as he shows a very mature Christian charity.

Does he have faults and failings? Of course. Point out any Christian who does not. But he does seem to be working on them.

66 posted on 08/17/2016 12:03:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: HangUpNow

I’m Catholic and the Catholic church does not teach that Protestants aren’t going to heaven.


67 posted on 08/17/2016 12:29:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Vatican II's fine print does.

Believe me -- we don't blame the Pope or RC's for that kind of stuff.

68 posted on 08/17/2016 12:50:49 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Fido969
Well, we’re not electing a Pastor-in-Chief.

Try explaining that to Ted Cruz's die-hard supporters. They'll settle for no less than Elmer Gantry as their President.

69 posted on 08/17/2016 12:50:52 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: HangUpNow

Protestants have a very skewed understanding of Catholic doctrine. The Catholic church in no way, shape or form believes or teaches that Protestants are not Christians. Or that Protestants will not go to heaven. Its simply not so. Hey Pope Francis thinks your dog Muffy is going to heaven so not to worry. :-)


70 posted on 08/17/2016 12:58:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: HangUpNow
Vatican II's fine print does.

Someone has severely misinformed you.

71 posted on 08/17/2016 1:32:47 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Georgia Girl 2
GG, with all due respect, I'm a former RCC and won't belabor the Vatican's own doctrines and "anathemas" that go all the way back to Trent. Vatican II has not changed any of that with respect to what it believes to be THE one and only Church of Christ.

Pope John Paul I, in a general audience on September 13, 1978:

"It is not possible to say: ‘I believe in Jesus, I accept Jesus, but I do not accept the [Roman Catholic] Church.’ When the poor Pope, when the bishops, the priests, propose the doctrine, they are merely helping Christ. It is not our doctrine; it is Christ’s [where in Scripture??]: we must merely guard it and present it."

Moreover, Pope Paul had promulgated a whole new doctrine: “Mary is the Mother of the Church.”

As to our destination when checking out of this mortal coil, The Vatican doesn't believe Protestants OR even RCCs are going to Heaven (immediately, anyway.)

Most RCCs won't/don't/can't dig deep enough to understand or deconstruct its own liturgical maze which has been confusing by design.

On a lighter note -- Pope Francis' idea of Doggie Heaven will have Muffy sharing his Eternal Bone with Mitzi, Princess, and Rover. IN the same Doggie House.

;-)

72 posted on 08/17/2016 1:40:41 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: SoothingDave
Someone has severely misinformed you.

Dave -- you mean the Vatican's own official doctrine is erroneous? That would be news to them.

Just to clarify: I CAN read. AND understand literal sentences, paragraphs -- even CONTEXT.

73 posted on 08/17/2016 1:50:43 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow

Can you provide any actual citation of anything? Or are you getting everything from Chick comic books?


74 posted on 08/17/2016 2:41:30 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Can you provide any actual citation of anything?

Yeah. Volumes 1 through 1,000 of 'The Vatican's Greatest Non-Biblical Doctrines'. IN HARD COVER.

75 posted on 08/17/2016 3:48:10 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow

Thought so. You are blessedly assured in your invincible ignorance.


76 posted on 08/17/2016 4:34:28 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Hey Dave — you’re the one who is compelled to refute Vatican Doctrine, not me. I already know what’s official, and in black & white.


77 posted on 08/18/2016 7:15:09 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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