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Does the Average American Know More About Foreign Policy Than Foreign Policy Experts?

Posted on 08/15/2016 8:01:03 AM PDT by pinochet

A number of foreign policy experts came out against Trump. Any American who has travelled to a foreign country knows something about foreign policy. Ordinary Americans are popular and well liked around the world. It does not matter whether they travel as tourists, exchange students, missionaries, residents of military bases, aid workers, etc. Ordinary Americans have a very good reputation in foreign countries.

But American foreign policy is hated. This is because foreign-policy experts engage in foreign social engineering, trying to change foreign cultures and overthrow foreign governments. Americans hate domestic social engineering, when it is carried out in America. Foreigners hate foreign social engineering when it is carried out by foreign policy experts.

It is foreign policy experts who cause America to be hated by foreigners, not average Americans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commonsense; foreignpolicy
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To: Celerity

Fair enough. So clear out everyone say, GS-16 and above, and of course all of the Obama political appointees, and leave the regular folks in place?


21 posted on 08/15/2016 8:31:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: pinochet

We are their bosses.

We have assessed their performance, they don’t meet our metrics so we are firing them.

In other words they have done a shitty job and we don’t want them anywhere near a position where they can make decisions again.


22 posted on 08/15/2016 8:33:33 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: txrefugee
True story. A friend of mine from the middle of his class at a mid level college was suddenly summoned to come to Tokyo to run the Disneyland Shearton in sheer desperation. He was a mid level accountant at a Shearton in a midsized city who did a credible, but not outstanding job.

Other than being a mid-level employee, his only other qualification for the job was that he had spent a couple of years in Japan when he was younger and had a fair, though not outstanding, command of the language.

What drove the Shearton's desperation was a Harvard graduate near the top of the class who was exactly as you described. He had been selected for the assignment based on his academic credentials and had a "know it all" attitude which drove the Japanese crazy. A sure money maker, a resort hotel near a world class attraction, was on the verge of failure.

Long story short is that my friend turned the business around, made it successful and, after a few years on the assignment, got promoted by corporate to bigger and better things.

The same guy would not have even been invited to interview at the State Department, as I once was.

23 posted on 08/15/2016 8:34:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: pinochet

Probably. Maybe even yes.


24 posted on 08/15/2016 8:35:41 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Toughluck_freeper

Yes, the American who has traveled abroad and has SEEN the ugliness and kill or be killed and squalor of the rest of the world (including the EU), it becomes very apparent the effete ivory tower elites think and international wine tasting makes one aware of foreign politics.


25 posted on 08/15/2016 8:35:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pinochet

I traveled t many counties in the 80’s and 90’s. I laugh at most foreign policy wonks statements and positions. Almost everyone is just trying to take care of their family and just have a decent life.

Go home ugly American and take me with you!


26 posted on 08/15/2016 8:41:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: pinochet

With politicians of both parties, it’s not that they are stupid — they are corrupt.

Yes, the average American can think of better foreign policy solutions, where “better” is defined as “benefiting the average American”. However, to the “foreign policy experts”, their criteria is how well the foreign policy benefits the oligarchs who pay off the politicians.


27 posted on 08/15/2016 8:43:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: pinochet
"Does the Average American Know More About Foreign Policy Than Foreign Policy Experts?"

The "experts" who advised Bush and then Obama? All evidence is that random names picked from a random page out of the phone book would be better.

28 posted on 08/15/2016 8:46:26 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: pinochet

The ‘Average American’ today is way left on the social, IQ and Christian bell curves. The idea may not even exist.


29 posted on 08/15/2016 8:48:13 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough)
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To: pinochet

There’s a great line in Rambo 4 about foreign policy.

“You go sticking your noble nose in other people’s business you get f’d up or you get dead.” -Lewis


30 posted on 08/15/2016 8:48:24 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly white woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: FreedomPoster

Even the higher-ups at the departments. Not the chiefs, they should all go.

But the people on the TV and in the studios talking to Blitzer and those idiots need to be ignored.

Unfortunately, they drive votes.

And I don’t even know where these people come from. They haven’t stepped foot in an intelligence office during their whole careers.

I remember working in these departments and seeing people on the news talking about work that our teams directly handled. And they just reported nothing of what’s going on. It’s like it’s two separate worlds going on there.


31 posted on 08/15/2016 8:48:50 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: FreedomPoster

It’s all about, and it’s been all about, fitting a narrative. The actual people doing the intel aren’t bound to a narrative.

So the work is performed, the work is reported, the work is submitted and then the work is completely re-written by someone with an agenda, or someone who works for someone with an agenda.

Just like that saying about Votes. “It only matters who counts the votes”.

With intelligence it only matters who reports it. This is where the WMD thing got way out of hand. Iraq HAD WMD, threatened to use it and Saddam Hussein went on his television channels and said that he had a dirty bomb on US soil and was prepared to use it.

But that whole HUGE report and analysis was sh!tcanned so there could be a narrative. And we all know that the good guys don’t control the narrative. Only people looking to destroy the US and have a firesale of all of it’s resources to other countries and powers.


32 posted on 08/15/2016 8:52:41 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

This gets back to my more general statement, that anytime I’ve ever known detailed, insider information about a news story, it’s almost comical how completely wrong the news story is.

I assume this is the case for most stories now.


33 posted on 08/15/2016 8:53:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: pinochet

Limousine liberals = Globalist


34 posted on 08/15/2016 8:54:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: knittnmom

Is that the place where the archbishop openly taunts the ambassador? I thought there was a similar situation in Egypt, but I could be confused.


35 posted on 08/15/2016 9:25:35 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: pinochet

Bomb first, ask question later as in WW2?


36 posted on 08/15/2016 9:36:34 AM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Not to put too fine a point on it, but specifically doing a mad juggling and balancing act trying to balance the demands of their various paymasters without getting caught in the act.


37 posted on 08/15/2016 9:37:29 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: pinochet

Absolutely yes. Not a single doubt.


38 posted on 08/15/2016 9:37:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: knittnmom
If you ever watch Fox Business, they trot out this “former” Obama Belgian Ambassador who is so ridiculously fruity to discuss how beneficial Moslems are to Belgium. He's ridiculous.
39 posted on 08/15/2016 9:42:36 AM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: pinochet

Our sole foreign policy should be as follows: I don’t care if you LIKE us, as long as you FEAR us!


40 posted on 08/15/2016 9:46:19 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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