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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 14 August 2016
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 14 August 2016 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 08/14/2016 4:19:18 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: stocksthatgoup

It’s a setup job that’s why. You can’t tell me that the Top DNC people don’t know what’s on Trump’s tax return.

There’s a down side for Trump if he releases them before the audit is done. I’m certain there’s a trap there that’s far much worse then him not releasing them while being audited.


121 posted on 08/14/2016 8:31:06 AM PDT by Fhios (Progressives just don't know when to stop digging.)
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To: rodguy911

Panetta was sweating buckets. When Martha asked him how she would earn the trust of the American people if elected , he said when she’s elected she will do just that . He must have been the author of the line about passing Obamacare to find out what’s in it. And we know how that worked out. Also caught a few somber utterings on a Face The Nation panel about how “dangerous” it is for Trump to question the legitimacy of the voting process. Wow. You can’t make this stuff up.


122 posted on 08/14/2016 8:33:04 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Chgogal

Khizr Khan is a criminal no question.
Even his wife who wore the muslim garb at the dnc convention reportedly never wears that crap when she is among friends the are all “conn” people.


123 posted on 08/14/2016 8:33:07 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: Fishtalk

I’m dispirited this morning too. I watched 10 minutes of This Week and had to turn it off. The media makes me absolutely sick. The media is Hillary’s campaign and they refuse to address her corruption, except superficially for a few moments here and there. The FBI and the DOJ, of course, refuse to do anything about it. The media will take everything Trump says and twist it into a 3 day absurd story. He absolutely has got to get some ads going. But even if he does and has a perfect debate performance, the media will step in and distract from it. And you’re right, unfortunately, people are stupid. Something’s got to give. Trump has such a great message and Hillary is so dangerous. I hope this turns around. He is so close in swing states and yet just can’t seem to overtake her in the polls. I don’t know how accurate they are, and we can pretend it means nothing, but we went through this with McCain/Palin and with Romney, sure we would come out on top in the end, and we see where we are.


124 posted on 08/14/2016 8:34:04 AM PDT by Proudcongal (Make America great again! Make America safe again!)
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To: Fishtalk

My message....keep the faith!!! As an old race car driver and drag racer.....this race has just begun. Even in a short twenty-five mile lap race, a thousand things can change, that can easily effect the outcome. I am confident Trump will win, handily!!!


125 posted on 08/14/2016 8:35:26 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Fu-fu2

Exactly, glad you noticed that. I thought he looked nervous as hell probably had to tell so many lies he had a hard time keeping up with it.


126 posted on 08/14/2016 8:35:34 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: Fhios

From your keyboard to God’s ears I must begin.

It was in your last sentence that you inserted how bad this could be.....Unless Trump shows up like Huey Long. She will figure out a way to make this happen, yes I believe that.

She has been bitch-slapped all her life. When she’s been nothing but a lover of children and humanity, educated at Wellsley, born to be the symbol of women’s liberation and damn it it’s hers.

First she had to go and lie for that horn dog husband of hers which she did. Then she had to get a Senate job and New York political positions are easily purchased. If they have to they go out to each and every home, buy the voter a pack of smokes and drive them to the polls.

Then she was ready to finally to achieve her prize and up pops Obama. She is told that if she does not step aside that the Democrat party will forever lose the black vote. Again, it’s that pack of smokes thing.

So Hill and Bill make a deal, a deal where everybody wins. Give Hill Sec. of State and we’ll get a fortune in speaking fees. We’ll sweeten the deal by throwing 1/4 of what we get out to the Democrats.

Of course Hill needs a separate server for her correspondence that should not be part of the public record. Of course the Justice department is owned by Obama.

Over the years money was thrown, even if in a roundabout fashion, to the Republicans, so much so that they kinda hadda go along with a lot of things.

And now she’s gonna let some ill-speaking male Chauvinist pig with hair like a troll doll take away that for which she had sacrificed for her entire life?

Anybody who needs to do any damn thing can be bought. The Khans have proved that. Out there, somewhere, is some kid or company that can hack voting machines. It’s easy to have people killed.

But she does it for love, people. For loving us she goes on despite her health issues and let us not forget that. Even if she has to have some big, burly guy follow her around with a readied-syringe in his hand....NO WAIT!!

Sorry people, unless we the people stand strong, Hillary will win this.

Because she loves us.

And she knows what’s best for us.

Oh, and don’t forget they have the IRS, the SS admin, they can turn off he money....

....lotta power.

But again, please let me be wrong.


127 posted on 08/14/2016 8:45:19 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://aschooloffishblog.wordpress.com/)
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Wallace is a liberal douche bag.

...that is all.


128 posted on 08/14/2016 8:45:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: Alas Babylon!
Face the Nation = #NeverTrump

Wow! You're not kidding, AB. CBS's 2016 #NeverTrump Olympic Games.

129 posted on 08/14/2016 8:48:11 AM PDT by CDB (Life is like licking honey from a thorn--old Balkan folk saying)
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To: Proudcongal
I’m dispirited this morning too. I watched 10 minutes of This Week and had to turn it off. The media makes me absolutely sick. The media is Hillary’s campaign and they refuse to address her corruption, except superficially for a few moments here and there. The FBI and the DOJ, of course, refuse to do anything about it. The media will take everything Trump says and twist it into a 3 day absurd story. He absolutely has got to get some ads going. But even if he does and has a perfect debate performance, the media will step in and distract from it. And you’re right, unfortunately, people are stupid. Something’s got to give. Trump has such a great message and Hillary is so dangerous. I hope this turns around. He is so close in swing states and yet just can’t seem to overtake her in the polls. I don’t know how accurate they are, and we can pretend it means nothing, but we went through this with McCain/Palin and with Romney, sure we would come out on top in the end, and we see where we are.

Look Folks this is all spin spin spin. Trump should just keep letting everyone know the media is in the tank for HC. Everyone knows it even them. Let's stay positive and not be PC and stand up for ourselves. No more cow-towing to the RNC, media and PC crowd.

130 posted on 08/14/2016 8:49:37 AM PDT by streetsmart (I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Fishtalk

Dude, a backbone is a terrible thing to waste.


131 posted on 08/14/2016 8:56:06 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Jane Long

He agreed with Wolf Blitzer on the Situation Room Tuesday, that, even if Trump was “joking” regarding his NRA comment,” using violence in our political system is contrary to everything we believe in.” He concurred with Blitzer that Trump should not suggest violence in any way!


132 posted on 08/14/2016 8:56:23 AM PDT by edie1960
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To: MichelleWSC3
FoxNews Sunday - August 14, 2016

-- Did he really say Pence should quit the ticket? Those exact words? --

No. He was trying to get Pence to agree that Trump is a loose cannon, by trotting out the same series of falsehoods that have been circulating for a couple weeks.

My favorite part of the exchange was on a different subject.

WALLACE: Trump has banned reporters who he thinks are unfair from attending his campaign events. You said you were going to talk to him about that? Have you gotten him to lift the blacklist?

PENCE: I don't think Donald Trump is having any problem getting press at this point.

WALLACE: That's a serious question, his banning people, and I know you have a strong feeling about a free press. Have you gotten him to change his mind?

PENCE: We'll keep our private conversations private, but that's an ongoing discussion in the campaign, and I'll -- I do believe in the public's right to know, whether it's about these latest allegations about Hillary Clinton or otherwise, and we'll continue that -- we'll continue to advance that principle.


133 posted on 08/14/2016 8:58:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fhios
"People will die maybe, but Hillary is going to win this thing."

Trump has spent $0 on TV advertising and Clinton has spent more than $50 million.

To draw any conclusions, you would need to compare any previous election cycles with similar advertising spending patterns and there aren't any. Based on his 14 seasons of The Apprentice, Trump probably has a better than average understanding of TV and marketing.

If Jeb! were the nominee the MSM would be putting words in his mouth and misinterpreting everything that he said. The difference is that he would not come back at them.

134 posted on 08/14/2016 9:00:19 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I am not a dude.


135 posted on 08/14/2016 9:02:17 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://aschooloffishblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Exactly once more of the wiki leaks stuff starts coming out she's toast.

The "Benghazi Brief" alone is devestating to the clinton candidacty:

Here's more from the wiki release,a lot more:

"We know this 2011 Libyan covert operation came to be known as “Operation Zero Footprint“.

We know Secretary Clinton and CIA head Panetta were the primary sponsors for the joint State Dept./CIA approach; and we know that specifically because of a U.N. Security Council resolution (unattended by Ambassador Susan Rice) the operation fell under the military command authority of NATO not (important to repeat), NOT, the U.S. Military.

We know by the time operation “Zero Footprint” began, AFRICOM commander General Carter Ham was removed from OPSEC oversight in the Libyan campaign and NATO commander Admiral James G. Stavridis was in charge.

Stavridis was the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) at the time of the Libyan uprising. He retired as SACEUR in 2013

In 2011, 57-year-old Stavridis was the perfect pick for NATO Libyan intervention considering he is the son of Turkish immigrants. Turkey played a key role in what might be the most politically dangerous aspect of the events to the White House once the goals changed to redirection of the weapons from Operation Zero Footprint.

We know Operation Zero Footprint was the covert transfer of weapons from the U.S to the Libyan “rebels”. We also know the operation avoided the concerns with congressional funding, and potential for public scrutiny, through financing by the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

We know Operation Zero Footprint was the covert transfer of weapons from the U.S to the Libyan “rebels”. We also know the operation avoided the concerns with congressional funding, and potential for public scrutiny, through financing by the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

............

So Panetta was up to his ears and Gen. Ham was gotten rid of because he was straight,operation zero footprint was the Benghazi smuggling op.

.....................

Which would bring us to a series of now reconcilable questions surrounding the joint State Dept. and CIA Benghazi Mission.

The entire weapons operation 2011 was labeled “Operation Zero Footprint”. The intent is outlined in the operational title – to leave no visible record of U.S. involvement in arming the Libyan “rebels”. No visible footprint.

We know from congressional inquiry Ambassador Chris Stevens had asked for more security in the months prior to Sept. 11th 2012. Requests sent to the State Dept that were denied.

We also know that NO MARINE DETACHMENT was ever put in place to defend the Benghazi Mission.

We also know the Benghazi Mission was initially, and mistakenly by media, called “a consulate”, or a “consulate outpost”. But there was no State Dept record of any consulate office in Benghazi. We also know the Second Operation, in 2012, to arm the Syrians’ was also covert – No visible footprint.

Why were security requests denied? Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

We know from General Carter Ham (AFRICOM Commander now retired) the Department of Defense was not even aware the State Dept was operating a mission in Benghazi during 2012. Remember the goal – No visible footprint.

How could Hillary Clinton, Charlene Lamb, or Patrick Kennedy approve or request a marine security detachment knowing the entire mission around both Benghazi operations was covert?

Such a request would have traveled outside the small group of State/CIA insiders. The request would have gone to DoD. Short answer, they couldn’t.

Hence the disconnect between what seemed to be obvious and/or simple questions and the inability to accurately discuss in the public venues of congressional inquiry.

To the public Chris Stevens was a U.S. ambassador, a diplomat. To the folks inside the State Dept and CIA, Chris Stevens was a U.S. Ambassador, AND a CIA operative coordinating covert arms sales.

In 2011 those arms shipments were to aid the Libyan rebels, in 2012 those same arms were redirected to aid the Syrian rebels.

Even after death the public face of Chris Stevens, the official role, was the only role able to be discussed. The covert, or unofficial role, was not. Again, we see the disconnect between inquiry that could be answered, and inquiry that could not be answered. Many irreconcilables surface because of this intelligence role – even through today.

The second role of Stevens, the covert and CIA aspect, still causes problems for people trying to understand the “why not” questions. The broader public asking why have we not seen, or heard from the survivors of the attacks?

The short answer is:

we have not heard from the survivors – but the intelligence community has.

Twice some of the survivors have given testimony to congress. The problem for the public is that those hearings are closed door, classified, intelligence hearings – led by then Chairman Mike Rogers and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Again, go back to the beginning of Operation Zero Footprint and you see the congressional Intelligence Gang of Eight were fully aware of the intents.

The Gang of Eight in 2011 / 2012 was: House Speaker – John Boehner, Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi; House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers, and his Democrat counterpart Charles Ruppersberger; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; along with Senate Intel Chair Diane Feinstein and her Republican counterpart, Saxby Chambliss.

Why was Speaker Boehner reluctant to establish a Select Committee on Benghazi ?

Simple, again he is one of the Gang of Eight – and he was briefed on both operations. How is he going to call for a select committee to investigate when he knows the substance of the committee investigation is classified under national security. Such a committee would not, because it could not, deliver what the public was requesting, sunlight.

The only reason Trey Gowdy was finally assigned the task of a Select Committee, was simply because the public lies of the White House and administration were contradicting themselves. More trumpet, more noise, was needed to cloud the stark reality that both political parties held oversight over the entire Benghazi debacle.

136 posted on 08/14/2016 9:02:55 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: stocksthatgoup

I have no idea/answers regarding your questions.
Just hope something so trivial as seeing his returns doesn’t make or break Trump going forward.


137 posted on 08/14/2016 9:05:58 AM PDT by edie1960
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To: edie1960; Jane Long
Jane, read the transcript. You will feel much better.

CNN - Tuesday, August 9, 2016

BLITZER: You may not have heard this latest uproar, but I assume you've been briefed. Donald Trump said something off of the cuff at this earlier rally that's causing a lot of uproar right know. Let me play the clip for you. Then we'll discuss.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: All right. That's the comment that's generated all this controversy.
The Clinton campaign said this after Donald Trump's comments in Wilmington. The campaign said, "This is simple. What Trump is saying is dangerous. A person seeking to be president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way."

SESSIONS: Well, I agree with that. They shouldn't suggest violence, and I don't think he did. That's just -- actually, I had not heard that statement, but what I think he's saying is the Second Amendment people care about this.

Hillary Clinton's position on the Second Amendment is that she will appoint a judge that will make it not a personal right, which means that any state and any city in America can completely ban firearms. It's 5-4 in the Supreme Court. A new justice replacing Scalia would make it 5-4 the other way, and that would reverse that holding, making -- giving the states and cities the power to completely ban firearms.

BLITZER: But you understand how this could be interpreted as suggesting violence. Because if she picks Supreme Court justices, she will have -- she would have been elected president of the United States. And at that point, he says, "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is." Let me read to you a tweet. This is Senator...

SESSIONS: Let me just say, I don't think so, Wolf. He has no intention of suggesting violence against Hillary Clinton. I just don't believe that's possible.

They continue on this subject, trasnscript linked above.

138 posted on 08/14/2016 9:10:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: streetsmart

I know. Trump is a winner and losing is not an option. Sometimes even he says “if I lose” and that bothers me. I will just pray and trust God and that Donald will pull out all the stops and do what it takes to win. Wouldn’t hurt if Wikileaks had something that nobody could ignore on Hillary.


139 posted on 08/14/2016 9:11:47 AM PDT by Proudcongal (Make America great again! Make America safe again!)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks! I do, and bet most of us as well, support free access to campaigns. That said, there is no absolute right that media outlets who do nothing but deliver biased unfair coverage should have free access. Free Press, like free speech, does have consequences.


140 posted on 08/14/2016 9:24:58 AM PDT by MichelleWSC3
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