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Florida woman dead after accidentally shot by officer during citizen police academy roleplay
New York Daily News ^ | August 9, 2016 | Keri Blakinger

Posted on 08/09/2016 9:02:24 PM PDT by grundle

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To: Robert DeLong

Pile on???

Stupidity is stupidity.


101 posted on 08/10/2016 8:01:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Robert DeLong

>>Liberals shoot from the hip, while conservatives look for facts. While it is obvious that this was not a life or death situation for a police since it was a citizen training “exercise”, it is also a very tragic accident. You all seem to act like this was a planned execution of this 73 year old woman.

No one is calling this an execution. Who’s acting like a liberal here? FACT: a loaded gun was present during an exercise where guns would be pointed at innocent people. FACT: an innocent person died and there was no need to shoot anyone. FACT: the cops present were the “experts” at training in firearms at that event.


102 posted on 08/10/2016 8:07:04 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Robert DeLong

The fact that some cop may or may not be “totally upset” with his negligent homicide is irrelevant. This was criminal negligence and the cop who pulled the trigger needs to spend time in jail for manslaughter.

Thanks for the gratuitous insult, and no, those of us who feel that way are not “ignorant”.

I know you said you don’t care if we “call you a copsucker”, so let me be the first. We are well aware it was not a “planned execution”, but some mistakes deserve swift, severe punishment.


103 posted on 08/10/2016 8:21:53 AM PDT by ladyrustic
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To: kearnyirish2

Your joke sensor is out of cal...

Plus, don’t you remember the kids who got in trouble for finger guns and pop-tart guns at school?

My joke referred to them.


104 posted on 08/10/2016 8:51:37 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Sorry; I did understand the reference, but thought you were under the impression that civvies were “pulling the trigger”...

My apologies!


105 posted on 08/10/2016 8:57:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RipSawyer
He is an okay young man but I honestly don’t think he should be in law enforcement.

30 years ago we had a fairly close acquaintance who actually earned a criminal justice degree at a 4 year private university. He was not able to find a job on a police department or the state patrol because he kept failing the psych tests. We felt sorry for our friend but we were also somewhat relieved because we were always a little worried about how his emotional issues might affect his performance. We enjoyed being around him, and did not feel threatened but there were reasons that the police psychologists felt he was a risky candidate. He was a body builder, tall, with an intimidating appearance but he was always very paranoid and never left the house without having at least two holstered firearms and a knife. The strangest thing to us was that he was very afraid of dogs even our miniature dachshunds. But in hindsight he has never got in any trouble in the more than 30 years we have known him and is a very good citizen.

I worked with the police on an almost daily basis for 25 years after that on a fire department. I was always comparing their temperament to our friend. I met so many who I thought were less stable than him. And as someone else pointed out, it was a complete mystery how some of the affirmative action hires were able to have ever gotten on in the first place let alone make it through their probationary periods. My feeling is that they have continued to lower the standards over the years, at first so they could get the affirmative action hires the department wanted, but in the last few years it has been much harder to attract good candidates. So all this negative perception is actually having a negative affect on the quality of police officers in my opinion.

106 posted on 08/10/2016 8:59:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Many places will not train unless there is a blue trainer available.


107 posted on 08/10/2016 9:15:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obamca loves America)
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To: Robert DeLong
Hot flash!

Cops, thugs, pigs, badge heavy goons, trigger happy bozos, SWAT team a##wipes, choose one, have used up ALL their good will. Gargoyle glasses, skin-head haircuts, black, bloused combat pants, combat boots, Batman utility belts with 6 spare mags, And Mace, And taser, black body armor, (With yellow SWAT tag.), black leather gloves, 'roided to the max, using their "command" voice on some 90 years old lady who didn't signal, do NOT make for a good impression. The police had better become aware of the optics.

There isn't a driver in CONUS that doesn't have the $200 license plate bulb ticket story. We don't care anymore if cops get home tonight. There is an entirely innocent housewife who didn't get home because of some sh!thead f#ckwad with a gun and a badge. There are "X" number of times that TV libs can glorify LEOs, before the BS factor gets too overwhelming.

After flash bangs in baby cribs, dead Pomeranians, shot dead vets, shot dead grandmothers, no-knock raids at the wrong address, and the ultimate insult, "Admin leave, with pay"? Are they, and apparently, you, so tone deaf?

Just because racist, socialist morons like BLM take shots at cops DOES NOT justify total hugs and love for the Sheriff of Nottingham's men. You do NOT have a no-limit hunting license. Getting butt-hurt when you are called on it does not help your case. It might hurt to have a few of your bro's in blue hung out for a public lynching, for some spectacularly criminal goof, like this one. Until you can prove that all of you can be trusted with anything more than a Nerf gun, he shouldn't be allowed to have a gun at all. (That's a hint, about a felony conviction...)

108 posted on 08/10/2016 10:16:59 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: ladyrustic
So in your opinion vigilante justice should win the day in this case over presumption of innocence, and one of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty, should be ignored. Got it.

Which amendments to the Constitution do you also wish to dispose of?

For your sake, I sincerely hope that if you, or a loved one, should accidentally cause the death of someone and are placed on trial, that none of the jurors sitting on your case have determined their desire to return a guilty verdict upon you before hearing all of the facts.

Call me what you must, however, your insults have zero affect on my thinking things through, instead of easily following my emotional sentiments.

109 posted on 08/10/2016 10:19:50 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: grundle

did not address why there were live rounds in the weapon.

Thank God for Police Training, unbelievable, But I would charge him with Negligent Homicide with a Special Circumstance of using a Firearm during the commission of a Violent Felony, 25 to Life.


110 posted on 08/10/2016 10:21:29 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: jonascord
We don't care anymore if cops get home tonight. There is an entirely innocent housewife who didn't get home because of some sh!thead f#ckwad with a gun and a badge.

What you said. Furthermore, "administrative leave?" WTF!! Jail and get bail just like any other case of criminally negligent homicide.

First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club

LOL I though the first rule was that you thought you WEREN'T in the Dunning-Kruger club

111 posted on 08/10/2016 11:13:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ThunderSleeps

[Exactly. If a blue trainer wasn’t available, you damn-sure make sure the weapon is empty. Then you double and triple check, then get someone else to check it too. No excuse for this. That guy belongs in prison for the negligent death.]

Hell, make a “gun” with your hand if you don’t have a prop gun.

This was just sheer stupidity.


112 posted on 08/10/2016 11:31:37 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: bgill

There is no excuse for not using a fake gun and/or checking his weapon so no accident. Yank his badge and fire his butt.

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I’m pretty sure there are guidelines for this kind of activity that include making sure that what happened can’t happen. Someone didn’t follow the rules and got someone killed, negligence, that means man slaughter, Jail time is deserved.


113 posted on 08/10/2016 11:54:16 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
My apologies to you on getting perhaps the most important detail wrong! (Although an exploding water cooler adds a lot to the story!) But - hearing your story was a good reminder to me. I had become a bit complacent in putting the empty shotgun in it's case and then pulling it out again a few days later but not immediately checking that it was still unloaded. Not sure why my wife would get in there and load it, but....
114 posted on 08/10/2016 12:04:23 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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115 posted on 08/10/2016 12:11:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kearnyirish2

Yeah, if you or I had done that, we wouldn’t get to say “Woops!” and be suspended.

We’d already be in jail, and likely staying there for a stretch.


116 posted on 08/10/2016 12:28:28 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: dfwgator

I found this rather light hearted episode from the vintage Police Story. It’s well worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj6O5SBA9s


117 posted on 08/10/2016 5:06:13 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: 21twelve

No apologies necessary, I’m glad you mentioned it. I think of that incident whenever I am tempted to get lazy around firearms.


118 posted on 08/10/2016 7:18:47 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: 21twelve

No apologies necessary, I’m glad you mentioned it. I think of that incident whenever I am tempted to get lazy around firearms.


119 posted on 08/10/2016 7:18:49 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: 21twelve

No apologies necessary, I’m glad you mentioned it. I think of that incident whenever I am tempted to get lazy around firearms.


120 posted on 08/10/2016 7:18:50 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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