Posted on 07/30/2016 7:32:42 PM PDT by Kaslin
Hillary Clinton made history, but that may not be enough to get her to 270. Some Democrats are still worried that Donald Trump might win, given the level of volatility this election cycle, how Trump deflects media attacks like Teflon, and the high level of Democratic discontent within their own ranks over Clinton’s nomination. Those feelings were intensified when leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee showed staffers trying to find ways to derail Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign. The amount of booing, even during Clinton’s acceptance speech Thursday night just highlighted those divisions within the Democratic Party (via The Hill):
While the Electoral College may give her an advantage, party leaders and strategists say they remain concerned that Clinton is a tough sell when a majority of Americans think the country is on the wrong track and want to shake up Washington.
“The most important thing is there is a bias for change and there’s an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll where people express that bias even when they don’t know what the change is going to be,” said Geoff Garin, a pollster who worked for Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign and now advises Priorities USA, a pro-Clinton super PAC.
That July survey showed a majority of voters, 56 percent, prefer someone who will bring major changes to government even if they don’t know what those changes will be. Only 46 percent wanted a candidate who would bring a steady approach to government.
It helps explain Trump’s success, and the strong challenge to Clinton in the Democratic primary from Sen. Bernie Sanders.
Away from the hoopla of the Wells Fargo, Democratic officials and strategists say it’s a major concern.
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“I feel like we shouldn’t be overly optimistic,” said Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.). “Time and time again over this last year we thought Trump was done and he’s not so let’s treat him as an incredibly viable, capable opponent.”
The biggest uncertainty hanging over the election is who will show up to the polls on Nov. 8.
One Democratic strategist said Clinton will win if the Obama coalition of young and minority voters show up in force.
“If it’s the same as 2008 and 2012 we win,” the source said. “If it’s 2004, it’s a different story.”
Over at FiveThirtyEight, Clinton’s chances for winning the presidency dropped over 20 points in the past two weeks. In fact, if the election were held today, Trump would be the next president. Even in the forecasts where historic and economic data is factored in, Clinton’s chances had fallen by 15 points between July 12 and 25, a drop from 73 percent to 59 percent. It’s now 61, so it’s a 12-point dip…in a little over two weeks.
Democratic pollsters are also worried about the phantom white man vote. The Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard talked to Celinda Lake, who worries that voters are deliberately misleading pollsters on Clinton and will vote for Trump in the general. So, there’s a guerilla warfare element to this as well.
"I worry that there is a bit of a secret Trump vote," said influential pollster Celinda Lake.
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"The pattern is in the online surveys, even if you control for demographics, Trump does three to nine points better than in telephone surveys. So it really does suggest that there is a secret vote for Donald Trump," said Lake.
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She also said that the white male, blue collar worker is a ripe target for Trump. "Trump can also mobilize some voters, some white downscale voters who also haven't voted for awhile," she said.
It also doesn’t help that Trump and the Republican National Convention got better ratings on their final night of the convention than the Democrats. Katie wrote that even former Obama adviser David Axelrod thought Clinton’s acceptance speech was not very good. These are both very flawed, and very polarizing candidates. Yet, Trump is trusted more than Clinton, though that’s not to say his numbers in this character test are great—they’re not. But he is seen as more honest than her. When the State Department Inspector General released his report about Clinton’s email system—and how she never sought approval (among other things), despite her claims to the contrary—Trump was viewed as more honest by a two-to-one margin.
There’s also the change factor mentioned in The Hill piece. In key battleground states, most voters see Trump as the main guy who could shake things up in Washington, though that hasn’t been translated into firm definite support for the billionaire. If that moves, there’s definitely going to be a surge in support for Trump, which could spell trouble for Clinton. Right now, the Democratic Party has the grapple with a fractured party, a weak candidate, and a series of hacks into their party apparatus that continues to trip them up—and air dirty laundry in the process. It’s very possible Clinton could lose—and for love of God I hope she does.
MSNBC: Words People Associate With Hillary Clinton: Liar, Not Trustworthy, & Scandals
Sorta like much of the country freaked out when
Obama won....twice.... Get over it!
Kind of freaking out? It’s much more like totally freaking out :)
I wonder if Bill feels her pain.
The Electoral College favors Democrats...until it doesn’t. What twaddle. Does anyone remember how the Elector College favored Republicans once upon a time?
Sick of “making history” already. Queen Esther, Joan of Arc, Golda Meier made history. HiLIARy married a slick, unctuous predator. That’s all she’s ever done. Reminds me of every boring resume I’ve thrown out, dryly describing all the jobs the person has held, describing what their duties were. But what did you actually DO. What did you help the company earn, what cost savings did you achieve, what growth did you spur, what improvements did you make? This woman has held many positions but even her supporters admit she has DONE NOTHING.
My advice to the Disgrunteledcrats is to vote their conscience and pull the lever for the Green Party!
**Clinton’s chances for winning the presidency dropped over 20 points in the past two weeks. In fact, if the election were held today, Trump would be the next president. Even in the forecasts where historic and economic data is factored in, Clinton’s chances had fallen by 15 points between July 12 and 25, a drop from 73 percent to 59 percent. It’s now 61, so it’s a 12-point dip…in a little over two weeks. **
Clinton will lose.......Trump to the Top!
It’s very possible Clinton could lose—and for love of God I hope she does.
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Those who love God must make sure it happens.
A Trump sorrter here.
I really think in some way it boils down to the donors of the Clinton Foundation vs. Donald Trump- as The Donald has been self-funded until he declared he needed support.
I’ll bet you - when you read this list you’ll find a multitude of of domestic and foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation, i.e., if you can find the list online using a google search because apparently there seems to be a new ALGORITHM to dampen search results. I could be wrong so let me know on this one.
The Membership Roster of the Council on Foreign Relations seems to say alot about what money & what support for candidate for POTUS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_Council_on_Foreign_Relations
In reviewing the list many stand out but I’ll never forget lil’Barry going to the Caterpiller Factory in 2009
this runs 1min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJws9S5FJZU
then we have the CEO contradicting Obama
runs about 1min17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frj5G-V0SAo
on to CATERPILLAR CEO statement 2014
AND CATERPILLAR CEO states
We need growth—look at Japan, no immigration, dropping 20 million people in the next few years, dead economy. These people could help us grow the economy. It’s a big piece of what we need to do,” he said.
Caterpillar faces challenges in finding qualified people to hire for highly skilled trades such as service technicians. “We bring (immigrants) in here, we educate them, give them internships, co-ops, we send them back home. … Five years later, we see these same folks across the table from us with our competitors. I’d like to keep them here,” he said.
What part of hiring American citizens to do these jobs this CEO does not get?
No, he doesn’t get it= he got his $$$’s & now they keep for themselves & hire out undocumented cheap-shite labor.
There is no loyalty anymore- look at the list- CATERPILLAR is only a small example.
Any country that could elect Obama twice is doomed.
Does anyone remember how the Elector College favored Republicans once upon a time?
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In 2001, after GW Bush had won the electoral vote but lost the popular vote, a lot of democratics were calling for elimination of the electoral college. One of the loudest advocates for scrapping it was the new senator Hillary Clinton.
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A Trump voter here.
I really think in some way it boils down to the donors of the Clinton Foundation vs. Donald Trump- as The Donald has been self-funded until he declared he needed support.
I’ll bet you - when you read this list you’ll find a multitude of of domestic and foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation, i.e., if you can find the list online using a google search because apparently there seems to be a new ALGORITHM to dampen search results. I could be wrong so let me know on this one.
The Membership Roster of the Council on Foreign Relations seems to say alot about what money & what support for candidate for POTUS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_Council_on_Foreign_Relations
In reviewing the list many stand out but I’ll never forget lil’Barry going to the Caterpiller Factory in 2009
this runs 1min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJws9S5FJZU
then we have the CEO contradicting Obama
runs about 1min17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frj5G-V0SAo
on to CATERPILLAR CEO statement 2014
AND CATERPILLAR CEO states
We need growth—look at Japan, no immigration, dropping 20 million people in the next few years, dead economy. These people could help us grow the economy. It’s a big piece of what we need to do,” he said.
Caterpillar faces challenges in finding qualified people to hire for highly skilled trades such as service technicians. “We bring (immigrants) in here, we educate them, give them internships, co-ops, we send them back home. … Five years later, we see these same folks across the table from us with our competitors. I’d like to keep them here,” he said.
What part of hiring American citizens to do these jobs this CEO does not get?
No, he doesn’t get it= he got his $$$’s & now they keep for themselves & hire out undocumented cheap-shite labor.
There is no loyalty anymore- look at the list- CATERPILLAR is only a small example.
and just for the heck of it look at the entire membership rosters- notable & historical-
Heidi Cruz is on there for one including Debbie Blabbermouth Wasserman Schultz,too.
The entire lists are amazing and gives one a clue as to who is actually running this country, who needs to be not voted for.
Matt Vespa? Is he related to the princess?
Ooooooh!
I feel a bumper sticker coming on:
Hey democRATs!
Vote your conscience!
I haven’t come across a Dem (some family members and co-workers) who seems to be freaking out at all. In fact, they seen very sure Hillary has in the bag. They talk about Hillarys lock on 250 EV’s and talking points like that.
On the othre hand, every Trunp supporter I have come across also seem certain of a Trump win.
So from my view, both sides seem highly optimistic.
You take the opinions of delusional, immoral people openly voting for a known criminal at face value?
LOL
Druish?
From Alaska to Florida, from Maine to Hawaii, come the 9th of November, the map will be red!
We could nominate a Nazi Party member for president. That would be historic too.
Some historic events are not good just because they are historic. Hitlery is like hurricane Katrina. Historic but deadly.
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