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'I am German': Munich gunman in furious exchange with bystander
The Guardian ^ | July 23, 2016 | Bonnie Malkin

Posted on 07/23/2016 2:33:45 AM PDT by Enchante

Video has emerged appearing to show the gunman who shot dead at least nine people in Munich involved a furious argument with a witness, shouting “I am German!” and complaining of being bullied.

The shooter, who was found dead with a self-inflicted gunshot wound, was identified by German police as an 18-year-old with dual German and Iranian nationality. He had no criminal record.

In the footage, which was posted on Twitter, an unseen man can be heard shouting abuse at another man, who is clad all in black and pacing on the top floor of an empty car park.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alisonboly; iran; islamicterror; islamicterrorists; munich; munichmassacre; munichterrorattack; muslimterror; muslimterrorists; sonboly; terror; wot
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To: Bigg Red; odds; Lent; MHGinTN; StAnDeliver; alloysteel; Koracan; Chickensoup
Pinging a few names on the thread. Walid Shoebat nailed the whole Mohammed movie a few days later. The evidence in the article below is convincing, you need to look at the pictures and the rest of the article to grasp it, the German media are, naturally, lying. http://shoebat.com/2016/07/23/the-munich-massacre-is-a-complete-coverup-the-munich-shooters-facebook-including-his-family-background-shows-he-is-not-iranian-but-a-syrian-islamist-pro-turkey/ The Munich Massacre Is A Complete Coverup. The Munich Shooter’s Facebook Including His Family Background Shows He Is NOT Iranian But A Syrian Islamist Pro Turkey They initially introduced his name as a western name “David S”. Then his name changed to Ali David Sonboly (which sounds western) when his real name is Ali Daud Sonboly/Sunbuli which is an Arabic name (better pronounced Sunbuli) and has an exclusively Arabic meaning: ‘from the wheat kernel’. Sonboly is no Iranian. He is Syrian. His Facebook page showed that he is pro Turkey’s Islamists. That, plus he had a record with the Interpol and was being watched. He is also not a teenager as they show us, but an adult as videos showed. What the reader should conclude after reading is this: why is the eye witnesses account (which is substantiated by material evidence) contradicts media reports (which provide zero evidence that we can verify, just government claim). Let me shred the media’s narrative piece by piece.
141 posted on 07/24/2016 7:07:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Bigg Red; odds; Lent; MHGinTN; StAnDeliver; alloysteel; Koracan; Chickensoup

Sorry about the first one, had no idea it would merge all together. BTW this may explain the three men arrested near Marianplatz, dark complected, and not a peep about who they were or why they were arrested.

Pinging a few names on the thread. Walid Shoebat nailed the whole Mohammed movie a few days later. The evidence in the article below is convincing, you need to look at the pictures and the rest of the article to grasp it, the German media are, naturally, lying.

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/23/the-munich-massacre-is-a-complete-coverup-the-munich-shooters-facebook-including-his-family-background-shows-he-is-not-iranian-but-a-syrian-islamist-pro-turkey/

The Munich Massacre Is A Complete Coverup. The Munich Shooter’s Facebook Including His Family Background Shows He Is NOT Iranian But A Syrian Islamist Pro Turkey

They initially introduced his name as a western name “David S”. Then his name changed to Ali David Sonboly (which sounds western) when his real name is Ali Daud Sonboly/Sunbuli which is an Arabic name (better pronounced Sunbuli) and has an exclusively Arabic meaning: ‘from the wheat kernel’.

Sonboly is no Iranian. He is Syrian. His Facebook page showed that he is pro Turkey’s Islamists. That, plus he had a record with the Interpol and was being watched. He is also not a teenager as they show us, but an adult as videos showed. What the reader should conclude after reading is this: why is the eye witnesses account (which is substantiated by material evidence) contradicts media reports (which provide zero evidence that we can verify, just government claim). Let me shred the media’s narrative piece by piece.


142 posted on 07/24/2016 7:09:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

Disgusting! Freaking German authorities!


143 posted on 07/24/2016 7:24:28 PM PDT by Lent
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To: little jeremiah

“why is the eye witnesses account (which is substantiated by material evidence) contradicts media reports (which provide zero evidence that we can verify, just government claim).” Well, how else does the oligarchy use the media to manipulate the masses? Lying is hallmark of the father of all this evil.


144 posted on 07/24/2016 9:50:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Enchante

Wouldn’t it be easier to use the shooter’s name in the transcripts?


145 posted on 07/24/2016 10:55:08 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: canuck_conservative

Merkel must have been promised the moon to take in this dysfunctional mass of inbred cretins.


146 posted on 07/24/2016 11:07:03 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: little jeremiah; Bigg Red

Interesting take from Shoebat.

I haven’t had a chance to look at this in any depth but read Shoebat’s info per link you posted.

Don’t know, and anything is possible.

My Arabic is not fluent. But I’m fluent in Persian and can read and write. So, I refer you to my post #36 in this thread.

What I can comfortably say is: Sonboly or Sonboli can well be an Iranian lastname; but as said before can be a lastname for an Afghan, maybe Syrian, but also some Tunisians. Sonbol as I said before is also the name of the flower hyacinth in Persian language. The “i” or “y” at the end of the Sonbol, i.e. Sonboly or Sonboli usually means someone “belonging to” a particular place, town, or even someone’s profession.

Ultimately, the pronunciation makes a difference and how you pronounce it even in Iran would also depend on which ethnic group you belong to or where you are from. Sonbol, commonly in Iran, can be pronounced in 2 ways, one phonetically spelled san-bol” or “san-boli” or “so-n-bol”, both meaning Hyacinth flower.

As I said my Arabic is limited, and I can read and understand it only as far as some words relate to Persian language. Arabic and Persian are completely languages, different pronunciation and completely different grammar.

Also, Daoud is NOT a Persian name. In Persian, David in English is phonetically Daavood, or I know some Iranian-Jews name their son Daaveed.

If you read my post #36 in this thread, I did wonder about his lastname, and also about his family.

The other anomaly, in my view, is that IF the shooter was in fact born and raised in Germany, being 18, which is quite young, it is very UNUSUAL, to be shouting “Allah Akbar”. This just doesn’t happen, UNLESS, he was brainwashed, and had intense training by the Iranian REGIME in Iran, or in a mosque, as two key examples.

Otherwise, this sorta behavior is not common even among very religious muslim Iranian families, who have lived in Europe since early 1990s, and presumably don’t have a track-record of regularly visiting mosques or visiting Iran for prolonged period of time. Of course exceptions are always possible.

The above is all I can say for now.


147 posted on 07/25/2016 2:50:37 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Oh, and Sam-bol is also how Iranians pronounce the English word Symbol, when speaking Persian; the meaning is the same as Symbol in English. But that’s an “m” not “n”.


148 posted on 07/25/2016 3:03:37 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Okay, thanks for your insights.


149 posted on 07/25/2016 5:36:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You're on fire, stupid!)
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To: odds

PS: My reason for pinging you to this thread was the thought that it might provide another piece to the puzzle. Not questioning any of your conclusions.


150 posted on 07/25/2016 5:39:43 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You're on fire, stupid!)
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To: little jeremiah

Interesting. Thank you.


151 posted on 07/25/2016 5:49:49 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You're on fire, stupid!)
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To: Enchante

God help me, but I saw that and thought of that morale-building PSA they were running over there a while back:

“Du bist Deutschland.”
“Du bist Deutschland.”
“ICH bin Deutschland!” [bang!bang!bang!]


152 posted on 07/25/2016 6:03:17 AM PDT by RichInOC ("In the name of Allah, The Inexorable, The Irresistible...")
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To: odds

I will read your comment 36, and please take the time to read Shoebat’s analysis and get back to me with your thoughts, I’d appreciate it.


153 posted on 07/25/2016 6:52:04 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Kozak
So his shouting “allah ackbar” is just coincidence?

No, no, he was just asking directions to Ollie's Snackbar....

154 posted on 07/25/2016 12:25:00 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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