Posted on 07/22/2016 12:29:41 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
A sub comes to comm depth twice a day to send/receive message traffic, hardly realtime targeting information.
2 mk48’s couldn’t sink a 4000 ton frigate with no crew doing damage control. So multiply it for a 90,000+ ton carrier. 20+ hits?
Sounds like McStain’s navy career in a nutshell
The sub has to have some way to target the missiles, or even know that there are aircraft around in the first place. To do that it would have to stick up a mast and use radar, which also tells everyone around where the sub is. A submarine's best defense, and a big part of its offense, is based on stealth. Anything that diminishes that increases the danger to the sub.
Subs have to be a depth where the antenna can protrude from the water, 90 feet perhaps. That is why subs do not stay at comm depth for more than 1/2 hour and they are vulnerable at that depth. You can actually see a sub at that depth during the day. Subs have no anti air weapons. Anti air warfare is not their mission.
Those airline style toilets they put on that ship aren’t helping matters either.
Your not going to sink a carrier with a tomahawk. You can damage it but not sink it. The perception that a modern carrier is this frail thing that can be easily sunk needs top be dispelled. A carrier is extremely tough.
When they aren't surfacing under merchantmen.
UK nuclear submarine collides with merchant vessel off Gibraltar
I think you can do it in about 4 or 5.
It'd use a Harpoon. Tomahawks are land attack missiles. And a sub could target the Harpoon using it's sonar.
The CVBG has anti air thing covered in spades. No help needed. The best help a sub can render is to track and maintain contact with enemy attack subs and either sink it or constantly broadcast its position. That is a crucial mission of the attack sub fleet.
Sink or disable?
you can disable it with one with blasting off the rudder and props. I think the carrier would be in serious danger if it was hit with 5. BTW: China has carrier killers, I am not sure if they are worth a shit.
The surface Navy does some really stupid crap. Primary units DDG’s, Cruisers and CVN’s all have noise abatement gear which works really well. Then once every 4 days a fleet oiler comes around that is louder than all get put and gives away the store. I hope that situation has improved since I was in the fleet.
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