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To: Enchante

I would go easy on this.

There is a sizable group of Americans, who think our healthcare coverage is currently very screwed up, and needs to be fixed.

Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.

Just my opinion mind you. But I feed strongly, this subject could very easily be a strong one, for democrats, if we hand it to them.


7 posted on 07/21/2016 5:09:45 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Before Obamacare if you did not have insurance you were not fined. Now if you don’t have insurance your are penalized to me it is worse after Obamacare. They lied to pass it jut like Gruber said.

Obama fixed nothing however the fix was in to destroy what we had and turn it over to the government do not be fooled.


48 posted on 07/21/2016 9:35:41 PM PDT by funfan
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Obama was trying to fix it. We do NOT need to return to what we had before. That was an absolute mess.

My opinion is different.

What we had before Obamacare was an absolute mess for thousands (mainly the leeches.)

What we have now, Obamacare, is an absolute mess to millions!

But thank you for sharing your opinion.

49 posted on 07/21/2016 10:51:37 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: cba123

People may think it’s screwed up....but once you leave the US and walk around the planet looking for the best and affordable type medical care....you find three general things.

1. The only countries that have sustainable and affordable healthcare....have marginal illegal drug use, little to no crime, and emergency rooms which barely get used. We don’t fit into their models, and will never fit.

2. Once you add everyone into the pot, who may have serious health problems...the only logical way for a subscription or fee program to go....is UP. We aren’t paying for good health and reasonable habits for ourselves....we are paying for everyone, and ALL of their habits.

3. The only logical reason for health insurance companies to be in the middle of this political mess....is to ensure their profit margin stays at X-percent. They will do whatever it takes....raising rates...to ensure that percentage point is reached.

Sorry, I am pessimistic....it is unfixable.


52 posted on 07/22/2016 12:04:00 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Yeah - keep the crap for all because the crap for some was scary - take a thinking class and try again.


53 posted on 07/22/2016 4:11:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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The current insurance situation is indeed way messed up, because of increased gov-insurance (lawyers all) mashup. Copays going up, costs going up, doctors as gov inquisitors, doctors leaving practice. It effectively only raised costs and got more onto Medicaid.

What we had prior was still a gov-insurance (lawyers all) mashup. Needed tort reform (ambulance chasing lawyers) fraud busting, competition, medical IRAs, choice.

Obama and Clinton before him and Dem’s before her were trying to fix nothing. They wanted government takeover of another 17% of our economy (and even more lawyers). Simply socialism.

It will remain a Dem issue if we do not speak of the correct fixes, some noted above, that will truly fix, improve and cost reduce healthcare. Our Enmedia won’t allow that.

And that’s MY humble opinion. :-)


54 posted on 07/22/2016 5:10:58 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough)
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