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To: Mariner

I was on the Kennedy (CVA-67) and I know for a fact she would do 32 knots. A frigate needs to be faster than that.

As for survivability, all the fuel and explosives were removed so there were no secondary explosions. Note the bulge in the aft part of the ship at the front of the helicopter landing pad. That would have taken out the propulsion and left her dead in the water and possibly without power.


7 posted on 07/18/2016 5:33:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"A frigate needs to be faster than that."

Not really.

The Destroyers and Cruisers do.

For 99%, at least, of the time all ships are in transit at 14-16kts.

If a CBG needs to reposition quickly, there's always at least two DDG's that can run with it if they have the fuel aboard.

And CVN's rarely advance faster than their subs and DDG's can keep up.

The role of a modern Frigate is to patrol the Persian Gulf and South China Sea radiating fire control radars to harass, escort of Amphibious units...and to aid in AAW/ASW for CBGs...where they can.

Sometimes just simple presence to deter untoward activities at sea.

15 posted on 07/18/2016 6:08:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hey! I was on the Kennedy too, and...I thought she went faster than that!

My berth was right under the wires, and I remember one of the crossings we made across the Atlantic at high speed...I woke up, and the whole compartment was vibrating as the screws, at a frequency that my memory tells me was about 200 times a minute, was going “WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM”

It was wild. The ship was hauling ass across the Atlantic (Don’t know why, maybe they were just stretching her legs) so I got up and went down to the fantail, and there was a mountain of white water.

VERY impressive! (BTW, when were you on? I was on 1976 to 1979...attached airing, VA-46)


24 posted on 07/18/2016 7:40:55 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“I was on the Kennedy (CVA-67) and I know for a fact she would do 32 knots. A frigate needs to be faster than that.”

A carrier can run off and leave escorts in the dust. Its a well known fact of naval hull design, longer the waterline, the faster it can go.
No escort is going to keep up with a carrier at flank speed. On 9/11 at least one carrier hit the gas and headed towards the Persian Gulf as fast as possible, leaving the escorts to catch up as they could.

And don’t act like an LCS could do it, it’s high top speed is only for a short dash. And the USN had to waive damage control standards to get it into the fleet.


32 posted on 07/18/2016 9:04:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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