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Donald Trump Shifts on Muslim Ban, Calls for 'Extreme Vetting'
nbcnews.com ^ | July 17, 2016 | Ali Vitali

Posted on 07/17/2016 8:38:20 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Donald Trump is once again shifting the parameters of his proposed temporary ban on Muslisms entering the country, calling Sunday for "extreme vetting" of persons from "territories" with a history of terror — though not explicitly abandoning his previous across-the-board ban.

In an interview with "60 Minutes" that aired Sunday, Trump zeroed in on people from suspicious "territories" as those who will receive deep scrutiny when trying to enter the United States. He did not directly repudiate his previous call for an outright ban.

"Call it whatever you want," Trump told CBS when asked if he was changing his previously released policy.

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To: BlessedBeGod

Now yer catchin’ on, kid.


21 posted on 07/17/2016 9:43:40 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The holy scriptures of Islam preach hate. If somebody identifies as a Muslim, the burden is on them to prove that they don’t observe the hateful portions of Islam. If they can’t meet that burden to our satisfaction, they don’t get to come here.

One of the most pressing problems is those who murder in the name of Islam, which is not all Muslims, but only Muslims.


22 posted on 07/17/2016 10:07:15 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Where is the shift? I’m pretty sure he mentioned vetting when he first proposed the “muslim ban” as the press likes to call it.


23 posted on 07/17/2016 10:21:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Extreme vetting. Yeah. That’s a shift. MSM hoping to make news AND stay solvent in this prez race

They’re under pressure It’s fun to watch Like Wimbledon or post season baseball. Post season being the operative term


24 posted on 07/17/2016 10:21:09 PM PDT by stanne
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To: All

I hope that the extreme vetting includes the diplomatic community. Some time around September, 2001, it would appear that vetting was pretty much absent.

But then there’s the case of the next administration and its own love affair with radical Islam. There, the voters should have done some vetting.

Meanwhile, I suspect Frau Merkel is also vetting — ze bed.


26 posted on 07/17/2016 10:52:59 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The rule of law turned into the drool of lawyers)
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To: boycott
I couldn't hear any real difference in what Mr. Trump said today. What he always said he wanted was to halt people coming in until they could be properly vetted. Isn't that "extreme vetting"? Only difference might be not the thorough vetting process will be for anyone moving to the US.

It only makes sense. What we're seeing now is that some very scary people are already citizens of places such as France. All countries, not just the US, have to stabilize their populations. Otherwise, there won't be any civilization that isn't destroyed.

27 posted on 07/17/2016 11:01:58 PM PDT by grania
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To: P-Marlowe

>> The problem with most milquetoast republicans is...

They never intend to advance the initiatives we vote for.


28 posted on 07/17/2016 11:27:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

This exactly. You can’t vet refugees from Muslim countries, they’re so backwards there isn’t going to be a useful paper trail on any of them.

Trump knows that.


29 posted on 07/18/2016 12:16:34 AM PDT by jazminerose (oective)
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To: AJFavish

I think hes the closest on my position.

Ban all muslims.

Remove all muslims.

Never let muslims in ever again.

You cannot if they are muslims. The belief system is pure lying hatred and death. Does not work,in a constitutioal republic, and if we ever hope to get ours back, they cannot be here. They were fought against, the muslim barbary pirates, and kept out for a long damn time and need to be kept out again.


30 posted on 07/18/2016 12:24:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigersEye

Yup, the media constantly lies claiming something is a flip flop or big change when it isn’t


31 posted on 07/18/2016 12:31:32 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No shift, just Trump showing how it WILL BE done.

No Muslim who is not assimilative to US culture should be allowed entry.

And as far as the Saudis go, we are simply reciprocating their internal laws concerning foreigners who travel or reside there, and concerning religious freedom in Saudi Arabia.


32 posted on 07/18/2016 2:13:31 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What ultimately matters (and what we really don’t know) is Trump’s sincerity in keeping potentially subversive groups of people out of the country - vetting can be used to keep people out or expedite letting them in. Just look at the BO regime: it took conservative groups three years to get turned down for tax-free status by Lerner’s IRS; it takes some Syrian refugees three weeks to get cleared to move into this country coming from a war zone teeming with stealth Jihadists. With Obama, it’s clear who he sees as a problem, and who he doesn’t.


33 posted on 07/18/2016 2:19:07 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It is real simple, trump can adjust his reasoning to fit the occasion, he questions himself to make sure its right.

The typical politican will stick to what they said even if they know they are wrong because they do not want to admit they could have made a mistake.


34 posted on 07/18/2016 2:45:43 AM PDT by ravenwolf (uakingua)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Stick with your original proposal, Trump. Given the murder and mayhem that has transpired at the hands of mohammedans since your original proposal, why would you abandon it now?


35 posted on 07/18/2016 3:20:48 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Donald Trump is once again shifting the parameters of his proposed temporary ban on Muslisms entering the country, calling Sunday for "extreme vetting" of persons from "territories" with a history of terror — though not explicitly abandoning his previous across-the-board ban.

And the difference between extreme vetting and an across-the-board ban us what?

36 posted on 07/18/2016 3:38:17 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: boycott

Apparently liberals are too dumb to see this amounts to the same thing. SMH.


37 posted on 07/18/2016 3:40:01 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s not a shift, it’s a question of technique.

After all, we don’t have an explicit “no whites”, or “no White Europeans” ban on immigration, but since our descent into immigration foolishness started with Ted Kennedy in 1965, we might as well have.


38 posted on 07/18/2016 3:50:43 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t see any change. NBC lies again,... er still lies:
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DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON PREVENTING MUSLIM IMMIGRATION
(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, — Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.
Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” - Donald J. Trump


39 posted on 07/18/2016 4:03:23 AM PDT by BilLies (It is not the color, but the culture that degrades....)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Muslim immigration cannot be screened, since the immigrants’ locally-born children commit as much or more jihad bloodshed as their parents.

How does one “screen” a generation not yet born?

We can’t of course, so the only safe recourse is to ban it all. No Muslim immigrants period.


40 posted on 07/18/2016 4:11:05 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Trump - Because countries without Islamic immigration are countries without Islamic terrorism.)
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