Posted on 07/16/2016 4:09:09 AM PDT by Biggirl
Turkey is in chaos and the future does not bode well for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his allies regardless of whether Erdogan can wrest control from an army group that announced on Friday it has taken over the country.
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Not completely calm yet. This morning:
11:44AM
Frigate ‘seized’ by anti-government forces
A Turkish group opposed to the government has taken over a frigate at Turkey’s Golcuk naval base and the head of the Turkish fleet is being held hostage, a senior Greek military source told Reuters.
I think Klein is way off base with this analysis. Erdogan will use the failed coup to purge the military and any political opposition. Many will be killed and disappeared and Erdogan will rush to make Turkey a theocratic Islamist state and eliminate remaining Western influences.
If you are right, Turkey must be kicked out of NATO and never ever be allowed to join the EU or what is left of the EU.
Well perhaps, but Turkey is so ‘sick’ (exceedingly weak economy, already demoralized military, secular vs. religious rule) that, if Estrogen attempts his one man rule and pushes fundamental Islam as his country-side supporters wish, then the whole state will collapse - almost as if this is planned so ISIS can pick up the pieces with a new state to reside within.
I think the political opposition forces made a huge mistake not supporting the coup and will rue the day.
The basic mistake: not killing Erdogan first, so the snake would have been headless.
Also described is how the military would dismantle Erdogan's support of radical Islamists around the Globe. Much more. This could even go a long way to settling the Syrian conflicts.
IMO this describes exactly why Obama supports Erdogan over the military trying to do its duty to restore secular government.
IIUC, he was not even in the country at the time the attempt was staged.
I agree; Erdogan seemed to have plenty of popular support yesterday (despite his support for ISIS, suppressing journalists, etc.).
Turkey is lost as China was in 1949; our “president” was encouraging people to support Erdogan while ISIS is still killing Americans and our allies.
Who would enlist today after that? I guess the same people who thought it was normal for a wartime president’s daughter to wear a shirt sporting a peace symbol...
“If you are right, Turkey must be kicked out of NATO and never ever be allowed to join the EU or what is left of the EU.
Concur, but Odunga or Canckles wont be up for it.
No, far from shattered, Erdogan will be able to slaughter the opposition and extend his ruthless control. 14 years in power and now he has the pretext to assert greater control.
Yup, this only strengthens Erdogan now. A failed coup is far worse than no coup attempted. Erdogan will continue to develop his wannabe caliphate.
It's worse than that.
Everything you say will happen. Erdogan will demand, and get, admission to the EU and the Schengen zone.
The Turks are an energetic and clever people. They are not, repeat NOT, the Arab or Pashtun Muslims we are used to dealing with.
Because of Turkey's population size, they will IMMEDIATELY exercise more influence in Brussels than any other EU state. Add to that that Erdogan has national and imperial goals which no other EU state has - in fact, which all other EU states specifically deny themselves.
"Islamophobia" will become a serious EU-wide crime. Resettlement of the shock army of Arabs, Pashtuns, and Maghrebians will become a priority (remember, when these three unruly people were governed from Constantinople, they were easily controlled. Johnny Turk is not some Church of England schoolmaster).
All in all, this is a geostrategic disaster of unprecedented dimension.
He will have to watch his back forever. And if I know anything about that part of the world he will have to watch it even when he is dead.
I think this might be a hopeful analysis and not an accurate one, at least for a few years.
Dictators generally grip more tightly on power after such attempts.
This guy could become like Saddam Hussein—surrounded by a loyal cadre and protected for many years by a slaughtering of enemies—real and merely perceived.
All while Valerie’s man child applauds.
Yes. There is no way that the military leaders would have done this had they not thought they would succeed. The rug was pulled from under them by double-agent Islamist loyalists in the military command.
12:56PM
Thousands of judges purged
The Turkish government has embarked on a purge of the judiciary following the botched coup, state TV reports, in the first sign of how last night could increase Erdogan’s authoritarian rule.
NTV said 2,745 judges had been removed from duty, following a decision of the High Council of Judges.
Five members of the High Judiciary Court Board were also removed
Turkey on its way to becoming another Caliphate. Obama will assist. Dangerous times lie ahead.
Evidently, they attempted to do so.
He’s been doing that since he came to power. He’s also got a lock on the courts and public education.
This was a small element of the lower military - and the people didn’t raise up and back it. The people who did come out backed Erdogan.
This is another example where the majority of Muslims will sit it out and let a few hard liners run the show.
Just like Mosques here in America. A few hard liners run the show and the majority sit back and let things roll - because either they are afraid or support (by silence) with what’s going on. When a member goes SJS they go “Wow, I didn’t know!”
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