[cynicalman]

Ok I am going to get slammed

I will not vote for Hillary. Probably vote for Trump.

Been a conservative all my life.

Here goes:

We are the only county in western civilization that does not have a government run health care system.

Every time if visit Canada (5 so far) I ask everyone who I am talking to, (bar, B&B, winery, anywhere) how do you, as a Canadian citizen like your health care system. Everyone, I repeat everyone, loves their healthcare system. They admit they pay for it in taxes, but they love it.

If anyone here responding is on Medicare, (not Medicaid) you have the best healthcare insurance of anyone in this country. It is government run.

Just my thoughts.

flame away

[Buckeye McFrog]

Every time if visit Canada (5 so far) I ask everyone who I am talking to, (bar, B&B, winery, anywhere) how do you, as a Canadian citizen like your health care system. Everyone, I repeat everyone, loves their healthcare system. They admit they pay for it in taxes, but they love it.

America is not Canada. Canadians are free to opt for national health care and to like it if they are so inclined. Maybe.....MAYBE.....they can pull it off with a population of 30 million people.

This government, which can't even get the website up, running a plan with 330 million participants? No way. NO WAY!

[Reeses]

We are the only county in western civilization that does not have a government run health care system.

We already have a national government run health care system: the VA system. The patient wait times and quality of care are as expected.

[COBOL2Java]

Every time if visit Canada (5 so far) I ask everyone who I am talking to, (bar, B&B, winery, anywhere) how do you, as a Canadian citizen like your health care system. Everyone, I repeat everyone, loves their healthcare system. They admit they pay for it in taxes, but they love it.

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I'm sure it's great for the young and middle aged. If you get cable, watch the program "Emergency" on Discovery Health.

Not sure if they intend this, but you get a glimpse into the soft underbelly of the Canadian Health Care system. "Emergency" is filmed in Vancouver. One episode which was quite interesting had to do with a 74-year old diabetic. He had sores on his foot, and had been trying to get an appointment with his Primary Care Physician. Because of the wait times imposed due to his age, his first available appointment to see his doctor was in 3 months. By that time, his foot had become gangrenous, and now he was in the ER.

He had to get the foot amputated.

[CottonBall]

Medicare is going bankrupt

[goodnesswins]

I lived in Canada for 3 years...for colds, flu, broken bones their system works...just don’t get cancer or have a heart attack...
OR HIT YOUR HEAD Skiing AND NEED A MRI

[goodnesswins]

I lived in Canada for 3 years...for colds, flu, broken bones their system works...just don’t get cancer or have a heart attack...
OR HIT YOUR HEAD Skiing AND NEED A MRI

[Secret Agent Man]

You do know tons of canadians came down here to get healthcare in a timely manner they could not get in canada because allotments of whatever were used up for the year. Healthcare rationing and quotas.

Lots of people die in the uk and canada waiting for things we do not. Of course in these systems this is part of the goal of the systems.

[ExTxMarine]

"We are the only county in western civilization that does not have a government run health care system."

SO WHAT?!?

We are just about the only country in the western civilization that still allows private gun ownership. Do you propose we abandon the 2nd Amendment as well?

We aren't Canada. We aren't Britain. We aren't Australia. If you like what these other "western civilizations" offer, you are FREE to move there and enjoy their "benefits".

We, well some of us, enjoy our FREEDOMS. And I don't think I should be subsidizing the bad decisions of millions of Americans who are dare-devils or drug users or high-risk-sex-addicts or anything else. I should only be responsible for me and MY decisions and the results of MY decisions.

[madconservative]

When I have been asked that in the past, my response has been that it must be nice to be able to afford sub-par public healthcare because your neighbor to the south pays for your defense and all of the r&d on prescription drugs. Even so, their tax rate is unacceptable.

I am not trying to flame you, because I think it was an honest question and I think these boards feel too much like an echo chamber lately, but that said, I for one don’t care much what the rest of the countries in the world are doing. As far as I can see, most are failing socially, politically, and economically.

Just my thoughts.

[rlmorel]

Not a flame here, but I do not share your perspective in any way whatsoever.

There are people all over the world who come to the United States for their medical care, and there is a reason for that.

People who can afford to travel for their quality healthcare often do so. Those who can't or don't wish to, take what they get and put a good face on it.

Healthcare in the USA may not be free market, but it is close enough to encourage competition in the healthcare marketplace which increases the likelihood of better service. It isn't perfect, and certainly not perfect for people who think medical care can be completely error free.

As opposed to damned government drones working in the British NHS. They don't love it over there, but they take it, unless they are wealthy enough to travel out of country, because they have zero choice. Even the dummies up in Canada who outlawed private imaging clinics had to change their mind over the years because the wait times for an MRI or CT became so lengthy they became fatal. So they figured out a way to allow people to open those up and make some money, and provide a service they couldn't.

There are very, VERY few things a government run entity can do better than a private one with a profit motive, and health care is not one of them.

[Laser_Ray]

Canada’s military presence worldwide is basically squat.

Canada isn’t burdened with ~30% of their population being bongo-pounding savages and unwed minority mothers who are literally good for nothing.

Canada has a fraction of our population period.

What works in Canada will not work in America.