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CBS Anchor Demands Executive Action on ‘Armor Piercing Bullets’
newsbusters.org ^ | 7/11/2016 | Nicholas Fondacaro

Posted on 07/12/2016 8:08:07 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

Stupidity piercing truth is what the left really needs to worry about.


21 posted on 07/12/2016 8:22:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rktman

“The depths of stupidity are apparently limitless.”


Exactly.

The sale of AP ammo for pistols HAS been banned.

However, when you are dealing with rifles you have a different story. First, rifles are held with 2 hands, meaning that they can be constructed to be much heavier than handguns. This means, among other things, that the action can (and usually is) built far more strongly than in a handgun...which means that the action can handle significantly higher pressure. Second, rifles have a longer barrel - significantly longer in almost all cases...which means higher velocity for the bullet as it exits the barrel. Thus, when you combine significantly higher pressures AND a longer barrel, you are dealing with MUCH higher velocities. The bottom line of all of this being very simple: protecting a person against a torso wound from a rifle is significantly more difficult than with a handgun. There are vests that can protect against penetration from rifle rounds, but even with normal FMJ bullets (which, for the uninformed, simply means that the lead bullets are coated in a very thin layer of copper to prevent both fouling of the barrel by soft lead, and also to prevent splattering of lead when the bullet hits the target), such protection requires both thicker Kevlar AND a ceramic or steel plate within the Kevlar vest. As such, the police officers in Dallas were probably equipped with vests that would have protected them against a torso shot with a pistol, NOT a rifle - firing NON-AP rounds.

Here’s a hint, Scotty: do some actual research into firearms and ballistics - then you might not sound like such an ignorant fool.


22 posted on 07/12/2016 8:22:29 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rktman

How does an idiot who knows nothing of firearms come to run a news organization?


23 posted on 07/12/2016 8:23:37 AM PDT by cassiusking
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To: AppyPappy

You might want to rethink think that post you may get a visit


24 posted on 07/12/2016 8:24:18 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Gaffer

‘The 30’06 black tips (I think called M2 AP or something) are harder to come by but you can still buy. You have to go looking for them.’

That is what I found years ago. Due to a break in all my ammo and weapons are history.


25 posted on 07/12/2016 8:25:22 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

He may have been using 7n6 5.45mm, which has a mild steel core, but Obama already banned that from import.


26 posted on 07/12/2016 8:27:39 AM PDT by Toliph
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To: rktman

Currently only AP above .22 caliber designed for use in handguns are illegal. The ATF ruled that steel core 7.63x39 as well as 7.62 NATO several were “handgun ammunition”years ago.


27 posted on 07/12/2016 8:27:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: AppyPappy

I’m thinking of getting one of those AK-47s that can shoot down airplanes and a .50 cal that can shoot through tanks.


28 posted on 07/12/2016 8:29:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Snowybear

I think the AK-74 only comes in 5.45X39.


29 posted on 07/12/2016 8:30:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Get one with the ghosts in it.


30 posted on 07/12/2016 8:30:51 AM PDT by Toliph
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To: al baby
"You might want to rethink think that post you may get a visit"

I'm not sure that AppyPappy has ever rethunk anything before, why start now?

31 posted on 07/12/2016 8:31:09 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: cassiusking

“How does an idiot who knows nothing of firearms come to run a news organization?”

The same way an idiot who knows nothing of firearms becomes President of the United States.
The Government near monopoly on education and Affirmative Action.


32 posted on 07/12/2016 8:31:33 AM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: meatloaf

They want to classify any round that will go through a “bulletproof” vest as “armor piercing” and outlaw it. Currently that includes pretty much all rifle ammunition.


33 posted on 07/12/2016 8:32:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: rktman

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?495073-Heads-Up-Day-of-Rage-Protests-Are-Scheduled-for-July-15th-in-These-American-Cities


34 posted on 07/12/2016 8:33:30 AM PDT by Califreak (Madeleine Albright says I'm going to hell. Cruz' dad called me an infidel. Long live the Uniparty!)
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To: AppyPappy
I got me a SKS and that’ll shoot through an elementary school.


35 posted on 07/12/2016 8:33:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Boogieman

I think that the military body armor will stop a rifle round.


36 posted on 07/12/2016 8:35:36 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: rktman
If you push a standard .308cal hi-performance hunting bullet of 165 grains in excess of 3000fps out a Remington Model 700 hunting rifle it will penetrate 3/8" steel plate quite nicely at 150yrds.

I know how kevlar works and a standard body armor vest doesnt stand a chance against it.


37 posted on 07/12/2016 8:39:18 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: rktman

A Bolt if properly used, from in an Old Englih Lomg Bow or a Bolt from a Cross - Bow can not be stopped by even current body armor; unless you’re IRON = Man.


38 posted on 07/12/2016 8:41:04 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My Saiga is 7.62x39. Civilian model before the ban.


39 posted on 07/12/2016 8:41:39 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I think that the military body armor will stop a rifle round.

Really? Even a heavy .30 caliber? I sure wouldn't want to be on the other side of the vest when a .375 Magnum round slammed home. It would probably feel like getting hit by a car. Painful and probably still injurious, but better than not having a vest.

40 posted on 07/12/2016 8:46:57 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of incompetence and corruption.)
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