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To: Perseverando
I was an Army Field Artillery fire direction center NCOIC in the late '70's.

Absolutely no way women could handle doing our job, not to mention humping 155mm or 8" rounds down on the big guns.

8 posted on 07/11/2016 7:46:14 AM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: PROCON

I just looked at my crooked toe from where I was “showing off” a long time ago. I dropped a 200 lb 8” round from off my shoulder into some soft sand. It landed on the base and as it fell over, the nose plug hit my boot before I could move my foot.. Taped it up and limped around for a couple of weeks until the FIREX ended.

BTW, 155’s are about 95 lbs if I remember correctly.


13 posted on 07/11/2016 7:55:31 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: PROCON

>>Absolutely no way women could handle doing our job, not to mention humping 155mm or 8” rounds down on the big guns.

There is one of the big issues right there, just pure physical ability. Then there are the many other issues.

I am going to repost a post I made on the general subject of women in combat arms from another thread from Fall 2015:

Comments from my niece’s boyfriend on the women Rangers and the convenient loss of their training records a week or so ago. Applies here too.

He was a Marine 240 gunner, spent time in Afghanistan, this guy is serious business, we probably wish he’d gone to SEAL school, he’d have had a much better than average shot at it. Here’s his commentary on the Ranger school records debacle:

“Oh trust me, I’m aware. S*** makes my blood boil. I’m not even phased by the fact that they’re deliberately hiding the records of the females’ performance. I can only imagine how heavily that course was catered to the females, not to mention the fact that they probably outranked the entire instructor cadre.

We had a female interpreter in afghan, she was at the Company COP so I never saw her. She ended up having an affair with our Co 1st Sgt (surprise).

We also worked with the Brits for a while, since they had a patrol base not far from my squads pb. They also happened to bring in a female interpreter...pregnant in under 2 months, and sent home. Probably got an award for it.

Even if there were females that could meet the minimum physical requirements for the infantry, that s*** will never work. It’ll be detrimental to the combat effectiveness of whatever unit they end up in. Let’s not forget the American “victim” mentality as of late. I can’t even fathom how many sexual harassment cases that would be filed. Then the rape accusations, pregnancies, relationships affecting roles and promotions, oh and the fact that no woman on the planet could firemans carry my 240lb a** with 100+lbs of gear out of a kill zone.

Rant over.

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Ok I lied, rant wasn’t finished.

At the schoolhouse I taught at, we brought in non infantry units (POGs) and put them through several infantry centric courses. We had a strict standard of training and had no issues failing females or Marines that outranked us as instructors. This brought us some attention from higher ups on one occasion. A female warrant officer brought pizza for all 50 of “her” marines in our course. During their final exercise. We stopped her and reminded her of the fact that no outside food was permitted in our course. She returned with, “The four females I have in the class are going to feel sexually harassed by you if you don’t let them eat this pizza”.


31 posted on 07/11/2016 8:52:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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