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Killer robot used by Dallas police opens ethical debate
Associated Press ^ | Jul 8, 2016 8:04 PM EDT | Michael Liedtke and Bree Fowler

Posted on 07/08/2016 5:10:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai

When Dallas police used a bomb-carrying robot to kill a sniper, they also kicked off an ethical debate about technology’s use as a crime-fighting weapon.

In what appears to be an unprecedented tactic, police rigged a bomb-disposal robot to kill an armed suspect in the fatal shootings of five officers in Dallas. While there doesn’t appear to be any hard data on the subject, security experts and law enforcement officials said they couldn’t recall another time when police have deployed a robot with lethal intent. […]

“If lethally equipped robots can be used in this situation, when else can they be used?” says Elizabeth Joh, a University of California at Davis law professor who has followed U.S. law enforcement’s use of technology. “Extreme emergencies shouldn't define the scope of more ordinary situations where police may want to use robots that are capable of harm.” …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: copkiller; dallas; lawprofessors; micahjohnson; robot
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To: Olog-hai
Germans used tracked mines in WW2. This is -- like much that has the left all wee-weed up, 75 year old technology.

"Goliath Tracked Mine"

41 posted on 07/08/2016 5:29:13 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
this was the first time technology has been used to take out a criminal or an enemy

You mean besides guns, mortars, scopes, night vision, aircraft, chemical weapons, nuclear devices etc?

42 posted on 07/08/2016 5:29:19 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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To: Olog-hai

Professor Joh should face what these policemen faced before even giving an opinion.

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There were FReepers who brought up this issue as soon as the news came out.


43 posted on 07/08/2016 5:29:28 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Diogenesis

OMG, what is that woman doing with that robot?????

I’ve heard about robots being developed for the bedroom. But all the stories I’ve read have been about robots designed for men.

What will we men do, if critical numbers of women are just as happy to snuggle up with their robot?????


44 posted on 07/08/2016 5:30:04 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Olog-hai

All this talk about ethics . . . what about the robot? It gave its life.


45 posted on 07/08/2016 5:30:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bigbob

Exactly. Dead is dead.


46 posted on 07/08/2016 5:30:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: BenLurkin
That happens every time a police officer uses deadly force, doesn't it?

From what I've read in this particular case, the explosive was delivered by a small remote-controlled vehicle that is used by the Dallas bomb squad. This tells me that it's intended use is for a particular application where human officers would be endangered by explosives, booby traps, etc.

47 posted on 07/08/2016 5:30:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: 1rudeboy

You just have to teach the robot to throw the bomb...

Dynamic Robot Manipulation
https://youtu.be/2jvLalY6ubc


48 posted on 07/08/2016 5:30:51 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

That happens every time a police officer uses deadly force, doesn’t it?

No.


49 posted on 07/08/2016 5:31:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

There is no “cornered” in a parking garage where a perp who has already shot a dozen police officers can fire a gun at random in any direction and hit innocent bystanders blocks away.


50 posted on 07/08/2016 5:32:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: davetex

LMAO.


51 posted on 07/08/2016 5:33:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: Olog-hai

"You're people are getting a bad rap.
By Asimov, I'll protect you, and give you up
when they take you from my cold, dead hands."

52 posted on 07/08/2016 5:33:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sure. Take it back to any technological innovation since caveman days.


53 posted on 07/08/2016 5:33:28 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Olog-hai

Nothing to talk about, you start killing cops, your going down, whichever way you want it...


54 posted on 07/08/2016 5:33:34 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: BenLurkin

An apt comparison IMO is “The Texas Tower Sniper” in Austin back in ‘66. He was rightly killed, a robot would have been an acceptable way to kill him.

Now if we find out that this man no longer was a threat to civilians and the police could be expected to know that and could wait him out without risk... Well, tThat’s a big assumption at this point- plus his claim to be able to set off bombs.

http://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/whitman-charles.htm
“...Local gun-owning citizens materialized and started shooting at the tower. A cop angrily demanded of one such public-spirited citizen what the hell he thought he was doing. The man, reportedly dressed in battle fatigues and with an M-14 rifle set up on a tripod, replied, “Just helping out.””
Ah, different times.


55 posted on 07/08/2016 5:36:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Olog-hai
The media is making a big deal out of this but there are no killer bomb robot assassins.

The Dallas used a robot intended to remotely detonate terrorist bombs when they are found .

They put their own explosive charge on the robot and drove it to the terrorist and detonated it

56 posted on 07/08/2016 5:36:29 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraereh)
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To: Olog-hai
"When Dallas police used a bomb-carrying robot to kill a sniper, they also kicked off an ethical debate about technology’s use as a crime-fighting weapon."

Yeah...Maybe they should have used a poison dart...

No wait, they should have used very harsh words and gestures to make the perp feel really bad about himself and commit suicide...

NO, NO, I got it..! They could have hired a witch and used a voodoo curse to turn him into a harmless frog...

Yeah, that's the ticket.../s

57 posted on 07/08/2016 5:36:37 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Olog-hai

The same argument they use about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Dead cops are preferable to dead BLM killers. Same as dead Americans were preferable to dead Japanese in 1945.


58 posted on 07/08/2016 5:37:13 PM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Because this was the first time technology has been used to take out a criminal or an enemy.
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No different than using a drone, tank, or gun, IMO.

Obama,”if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”.
This loser brought a long gun and body armor.....


59 posted on 07/08/2016 5:38:44 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Alberta's Child

Okay, so he wasn’t cornered for the several hours it was that the police were hearing his demands, and negotiating for his surrender, and when he continued to stay where he was not cornered long enough, then they decided to be judge, jury and executioners.


60 posted on 07/08/2016 5:40:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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