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Silicon Valley Reacts to Autonomous Tesla Crash
NBC Bay Area ^ | 7/1/16 | Scott Budman

Posted on 07/01/2016 3:56:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: GraceG

I’ve met enough human drivers to suspect a sizable number would fall into that category.


21 posted on 07/01/2016 5:14:27 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: nickcarraway
One word conspicuous by its absence in every report I have read or heard, is the "a" word....

...airbags...

22 posted on 07/01/2016 5:16:29 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911

Airbags deploy when you hit something with the front of the car; when the front of the car goes under the trailer and the first impact is the windshield.


23 posted on 07/01/2016 5:46:45 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: publius911

Airbags deploy when you hit something with the front of the car; when the front of the car goes under the trailer and the first impact is the windshield.


24 posted on 07/01/2016 5:46:46 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: MUDDOG

How can this be allowed? The software could kill another driver or bystander. How will Musk (or his toady politicians) expalin that?

Answering my own question: the FBI will suppress it.


25 posted on 07/01/2016 5:59:14 PM PDT by RossA
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To: nickcarraway

One day after the world learned about the deadly crash of a Tesla Model S while in autonomous mode, the technology is under the microscope.

“It’s a serious problem and everybody needs to stop,” says Jamie Court of Consumer Watchdog, who calls the accident “a wake-up call to regulators.”

...

Statistically the cars with autopilot on are much safer than those with it turned off.

This big stink is like getting all upset at seat belts and airbags because people still die when they’re used.


26 posted on 07/01/2016 6:03:11 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: RossA

If anyone can, Musk can “fix it.”

I don’t like any of the new stuff in cars. Keep it simple stupid. I’d even go for manual roll windows if I could!


27 posted on 07/01/2016 6:06:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: diogenes ghost
But I have seen no explanation why the tractor passing perpendicular to the travel lane did not trigger the system, or at least interrupt the Harry Potter movie the driver was watching.

What I heard was that the trailer was white and shilouetted against a bright sky, so maybe it just got lost in the glare

Supposedly, the car never slowed and ran under the trailer, decapitating the driver.

28 posted on 07/01/2016 6:30:39 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent
"What I heard was that the trailer was white and shilouetted (sp) against a bright sky, so maybe it just got lost in the glare."

That MAY be a valid explanation for the driver not reacting, but I doubt it. But it does NOT explain the failure of the car's systems to detect the trailer.

29 posted on 07/01/2016 8:14:50 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Vince Ferrer
"...all autonomous cars have to do is be safer than humans, not perfect."

How many fatalities are the result of drunks, negligent/careless, reckless, sleepy, and other human actions that , when detected and prosecuted, result in huge lawsuits and prison terms?

Isn't it reasonable that automakers that charge a lot for the systems would be held liable in the same way?

And, if so, would you buy stock in same company?

30 posted on 07/01/2016 8:23:54 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost
Isn't it reasonable that automakers that charge a lot for the systems would be held liable in the same way?

And, if so, would you buy stock in same company?

Car manufacturers can limit their liability by setting up agreements with the owners of the car. They can also sell insurance that covers accidents. Google has already formed an insurance division. As their software becomes better, their insurance division becomes more profitable.

31 posted on 07/01/2016 8:41:00 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: diogenes ghost

That MAY be a valid explanation for the driver not reacting, but I doubt it. But it does NOT explain the failure of the car’s systems to detect the trailer.


That’s why I wondered about radar sensors. We’ve all seen still and video cameras white out when exposed to bright sunlight, and supposedly the trailer was plain white too.

As far as the driver, there’s the mention of the DVD player.


32 posted on 07/01/2016 9:39:15 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: nickcarraway

This is a simple problem to fix: the “autonomous mode” button is simply mislabeled; the fix is to properly rename this button as “Moron Mode” and scroll a 25 page legal disclaimer on the screen, requiring a checkbox input to be checked before “Moron Mode” can be activated.


33 posted on 07/01/2016 10:39:01 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ben Hecks
I have no desire to be on the highway with a driverless car, a drunk or a pothead.

They all are / will be around you, anyway. And believe me, you'll be much better off with the driverless cars — some might even help you avoid drunks and potheads at the wheel.

34 posted on 07/02/2016 12:56:57 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: chaosagent
"Radar vs Sun..."

Well, I was a radar tech in the Navy, then was an air traffic controller for 32 years, so I can assure you that light/color has no effect on radar.

Think about how many airliners would be in danger if our radar was blinded if pointed toward the sun.

35 posted on 07/02/2016 6:06:42 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

“Radar vs Sun...”
Well, I was a radar tech in the Navy, then was an air traffic controller for 32 years, so I can assure you that light/color has no effect on radar.

Think about how many airliners would be in danger if our radar was blinded if pointed toward the sun.


Exactly! That’s why I started this thread asking if the Tesla had radar as part of its sensor suite.

Apparently it does, but it’s close-in, not at a distance.


36 posted on 07/02/2016 10:28:29 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: diogenes ghost
... or at least interrupt the Harry Potter movie the driver was watching.

It did!

37 posted on 07/04/2016 4:25:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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