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Another Brexit fallout bombshell for British politics
ap / cbs ^ | June 30, 2016, 9:38 AM

Posted on 06/30/2016 11:32:43 PM PDT by SteveH

In a morning of political machinations and mutterings of treachery that had commentators reaching for Shakespearean parallels, Justice Secretary Michael Gove abruptly withdrew his support for Johnson and announced he was running for the Conservative Party leadership himself.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit
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To: SteveH
Look guys, I know you're mostly americans and don't understand the subtle nuances of British politics, so basically it goes like this....

The leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they'd all done nothing to help them.

Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn't lose, did - but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who'd always thought he'd lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash - and he was, but it did, but he's not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can't become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead.

Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party's view of this view is the opposite of the opposition's. And the opposition aren't yet opposing anything because the leader isn't listening to his party, who aren't listening to the country, who aren't listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there's not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful.

I hope that clears it all up for you...

21 posted on 07/01/2016 8:00:56 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: This_far
Very true, but I don't see any leadership emerging from the Congress.

That is not to say that there are not true men of principal who can lead such as Farage and Trump.

22 posted on 07/01/2016 8:42:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Vanders9

That was one of the best FR posts ever, and very thought provoking.


23 posted on 07/01/2016 8:49:31 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Vanders9
Thanks for the clarification!

Actually, it appears that UK politics and politicians are as hard to pin down as US politicians. And, they ultimately serve themselves and their parties rather than the people.

Admittedly, I don't have anywhere near the insight that you would have, but it does strike me that the Brexit was not the right solution for the problem. My only real measurement was that since Obama opposed it, I would probably have voted to leave.

24 posted on 07/01/2016 9:04:40 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

the effete elites are not maneuvering to have the uk IN the EU via oppressive treaties.


25 posted on 07/01/2016 9:09:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vanders9

yes, that clears it up. all it needs is a flashy term, such as “antiredisestablishmentarianism” and we are all set... at least for scrabble purposes, lol...


26 posted on 07/01/2016 9:33:57 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: wideminded

Thank you, but I must admit I didn’t think it up myself! Good though.


27 posted on 07/02/2016 2:30:58 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Well, Brexit was a big hammer which has sent shockwaves all round the world as far as I can see, which is hardly very fair on the rest of the world, but then what is the alternative? The EU aspires to make Europe a federal state. If we didnt have Brexit, the United Kingdom of England Scotland and northern Ireland would become the provinces of Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England inside the next decade or so. The United States of Europe...kind of like the United States of America except, of course, that they wouldn’t have States rights.


28 posted on 07/02/2016 2:37:20 AM PDT by Vanders9
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