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Navy investigation finds US sailors captured in Iran were unprepared, Iran broke the law
Fox News ^ | June 30, 2016

Posted on 06/30/2016 8:59:43 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Weak leadership, poor judgment, a lack of "warfighting toughness" and a litany of errors led to the embarrassing capture and detention by Iran of 10 U.S. sailors in the Persian Gulf in January, according to a Navy investigation released Thursday.

Six officers and three enlisted sailors have been disciplined or face disciplinary action.

The trouble began even before the sailors left port in Kuwait aboard two 50-foot boats on a short-notice, 300-mile journey to Bahrain. They were delayed, unprepared, poorly supervised and ill-suited for the mission, the report said.

At least one sailor had been up all night with boat repairs. Their higher headquarters failed to arrange air or surface monitoring of the boats' transit. Such monitoring "would likely have prevented" the sailors' capture by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy, according to the report.

The Navy's top officer, Adm. John Richardson, was presenting the investigation's results at a Pentagon news conference.

The lengthy investigation concluded that while the boat crews erred in entering Iranian waters, the Iranians violated international law by impeding the boats' "innocent passage," and violated U.S. sovereign immunity by boarding and seizing the boats.

Other rules were "ignored for convenience," resulting in the boats being "unable to present the appearance of a hard target or to defend themselves against (Iranian) aggression." The Iranians boarded the U.S. boats, confronted the sailors at gunpoint and took them to Farsi Island, where they remained overnight before being released after Washington intervened.

"Decision-makers at every level failed to intervene when the boats could not achieve minimum communications standards ... and when the (boats) violated Saudi and Iranian territorial seas," the report said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iranseizesussailors; johnrichardson; richardson; territorialwaters; usn
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To: Hojczyk
Decision-makers at every level failed to intervene when the boats could not achieve minimum communications standards..."

What?

21 posted on 06/30/2016 9:24:13 AM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: Hojczyk

"ignored for convenience,"

This is who we are as a nation now.

Hows that fundamental transformation working out for you?

22 posted on 06/30/2016 9:24:13 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: NEMDF

“How do you suppose these confrontations will go, when half of the US military is gay and/or transgender?”

Why fabulously, of course! With glitter for camouflage.

(Do I really need the sarc tag?)


23 posted on 06/30/2016 9:25:11 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Glad2bnuts

There would have to be an approved environmental impact statement before any operation.


24 posted on 06/30/2016 9:26:56 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: NEMDF

Heard a recruiting ad on the radio the other day telling me my “emotional needs” would be met by joining up.


25 posted on 06/30/2016 9:27:31 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Hojczyk
The boat crews had planned their route but made an unauthorized deviation that took them into Saudi and Iranian territorial waters. More mistakes followed as both boats stopped inside Iranian waters while one crew was attending to an engine failure. They could see Iran's Farsi Island in the distance but thought it was Saudi territory.

This was either a series of illegal/incompetent decisions -or- this whole thing was a setup by the Regime to have them captured by Iran so the Obama regime could trade them for yet more concessions.

26 posted on 06/30/2016 9:28:09 AM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: paddles

Quote:

“The USN will not get the message until an Admiral is relieved. VADM Donegan, 5th Fleet, needs to go. These were his people and sh!t-canning junior officers and enlisted men will not amount to anything.”

Oh no! It’s the civilian’s fault! Our wonderful military brass is JUST DOING WHAT IT’S TOLD! /S

And of course EVERYONE knows the military needs more queers, trannies, and females in combat units! Yes! That’s the ticket!

/S /S /S /S


27 posted on 06/30/2016 9:31:22 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Hojczyk

The feminization of the U.S. Armed Forces began in earnest in the early 70s...I was there. It has accelerated under Obama to the point where nobody should be surprised about a bunch of crying, surrender monkeys aboard two gunboats who are stopped by the ragheads. They had enough firepower to defend themselves, and enough speed to outrun whatever the rags were using. Sad.


28 posted on 06/30/2016 9:34:41 AM PDT by nickedknack
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To: Hojczyk

Another clusterfluck. Commander and Chief would have been proud.Muslims win.USA not so much.


29 posted on 06/30/2016 9:36:37 AM PDT by Lent
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To: Hojczyk

Well what the sailors lacked in “warfighting toughness” was probably more than made up for in their sensitivity to “gender fluidity.” After all, that’s the focus of their training.


30 posted on 06/30/2016 9:36:53 AM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: Hojczyk

Just think how much better prepared they will be when the Iranians capture a ship that has women dressed as men and men dressed as women who demand to be called “transgendered” persons.


31 posted on 06/30/2016 9:38:29 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Tupelo
No sirree bob, we live in a nation of Men.

Well they look like men, but they're little more than satanic meat puppets.

32 posted on 06/30/2016 9:39:27 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist
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To: Glad2bnuts

“Basically what they are saying is that if 1,000 crack troops from Russia wanted to, they could take Washington DC in a few hours. By the time the jets were scrambled, Obama would have signed a surrender.”

My thoughts, too. If the CIC wanted to cripple this country so it cannot defend itself via “the best fighting force” in history (all volunteer), he is working daily to make it impossible to reverse course soon, unless the next President who may not “get” this for never having served, reverses each and every policy immediately upon taking office.


33 posted on 06/30/2016 9:42:35 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: Hojczyk

Wait, what? Muzzies broke the law?!?


34 posted on 06/30/2016 9:47:35 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Hojczyk

The navy investigators win today’s NSS (No Sh** Sherlock) Award after much expenditure of taxpayers’ money. The award will be presented this afternoon by Captain Obvious.


35 posted on 06/30/2016 9:49:29 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: Hojczyk

“Innocent passage” of hostile military craft through territorial waters?

Pull the other one.

More likely, this was a covert ops mission that got caught in the act.


36 posted on 06/30/2016 10:00:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Wisdom is doing due diligence before forming an opinion)
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To: Jarhead9297
Probably just puke dropouts from Paris Island.

Gunny getting things squared away.

37 posted on 06/30/2016 10:03:01 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: Hojczyk
The boat crews had planned their route but made an unauthorized deviation that took them into Saudi and Iranian territorial waters.

I still smell bullsheiss... that would be one mighty arse deviation to go that far from land.

Is the Navy going to show us where, exactly, they were intercepted by Iran? Or why two boats with fully functional GPS would both deviate so far from their planned route? Was the sleepy one who did the boat repairs piloting the second boat and just blindly following whatever moron was piloting the first into Iranian waters?

Or did they really not go into Iranian waters and the administration does not want to admit that Iran intercepted

No doubt they screwed up by not firing to warn off the Iranians. But if they were really that stupid that means our training is horrendously bad and perhaps these people were certified without having earned their certification.

Back in the 90s my brother got in a dispute with his XO because the XO wanted him to sign off that a number of engine room personnel were trained and ready. He refused to sign off on them because he said they were not ready and did not know their stuff... and he would not sign off on them until they were.

So the XO arranged to have him reassigned him to another ship, and the XO then assigned someone who was willing to sign off on them. So my brother gets treated after that like he's not a team player until he proves he's good at his new job.

Meanwhile, the old captain who was responsible for this was promoted up the line. A new captain took over, and assuming his crew was as good as they were reported to be, he took the vessel to sea.

At which point the unprepared engine room men salted the engines.

The new captain was the one who was nailed for the error and forced to retire.

The old captain and XO went on with their careers, not a blemish on their record.

38 posted on 06/30/2016 10:19:56 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Hojczyk

“...a lack of “warfighting toughness...”

Pussyness seems to flow right down from the top.


39 posted on 06/30/2016 10:20:58 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Flick Lives

Two boats with four sets of communications equipment and neither one could communicate?


40 posted on 06/30/2016 10:21:32 AM PDT by piasa
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