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Remember 1977, When the F-16 Was America's Problem Child?
Popular Mechanics ^ | Jun 29, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 06/29/2016 8:56:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 06/29/2016 8:56:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bump


2 posted on 06/29/2016 9:00:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I feel that the F16 is the best jet air superiority fighter we have.


3 posted on 06/29/2016 9:01:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

As I recall, the F-16 beat out several competitors to be the next NATO fighter.


4 posted on 06/29/2016 9:02:49 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Given that the B-52 still gets the job done, what tech drives the F-35 over all of the F-teens?

Stealth(materials)? Engines? Aero? Avionics? Changes in the Laws of Physics(CAD optimizations)? or, ????

5 posted on 06/29/2016 9:06:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Nope. While the F16 rocks, the F22 is. Which is why Obama killed it.


6 posted on 06/29/2016 9:07:20 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Paladin2

F-16


7 posted on 06/29/2016 9:09:05 PM PDT by glock rocks (Political Correctness is fascism disguised as manners. -- George Carlin)
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While the F16 rocks, the F22 is. Which is why Obama killed it.

President Trump will bring it back. That's why they're holding on to the tooling.

8 posted on 06/29/2016 9:11:50 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Your post makes no sense to me.

Is the F-16 out of production? The F-35 is a stealth version of the 16?

9 posted on 06/29/2016 9:13:10 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not that I know anything about military technology, but given that the R&D costs for the F35 are about twice what they were for the F16, adjusted for inflation, it seems a given that the costs for these manned fighter programs are not going to be sustainable. Wouldn’t it make more sense to invest in drone technology?


10 posted on 06/29/2016 9:13:50 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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200 doesn’t sound like enough. A couple of thousand sounds way better.


11 posted on 06/29/2016 9:14:33 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Comparing the F-35 to the F-16 is silly. The F-35 is far more like the F-111.


12 posted on 06/29/2016 9:14:37 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Paladin2

As it has been explained to me, the F-35 is a force multiplier. Capable of simultaneous fighting with drones. Like a queen bee, essentially.


13 posted on 06/29/2016 9:17:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Sounds like tech that could be retroactively applied to F4s and F111s, or P-38s.


14 posted on 06/29/2016 9:20:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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A-10s with drone wingmen would be fun....


15 posted on 06/29/2016 9:21:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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“Many of the F-16’s past problems are mirror images of the issues we see in the F-35.”

Not really. The 16 wasn’t 20 years in development and still sucking. And on day one, nothing on earth could beat it except a well flown F-15. In fact, it is still one of the most deadly fighters on earth. Nothing foreign can best it yet.


16 posted on 06/29/2016 9:22:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that the state deportmentthat up....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Supposedly, the F-35 is going to replace all other fixed wing tactical aircraft. It cannot replace the A-10.


17 posted on 06/29/2016 9:25:13 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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They tried that. But the 35 is a moonpig in performance. A 16 can fly rings around it, outshoot it, and outrun it, and run it outta gas.

The 35 is essentially a light stealth enhanced light bomber(but not stealth) I would think of it as an improved and more mainstreamed F-117 with some fighter capacity added.


18 posted on 06/29/2016 9:28:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that the state deportmentthat up....)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

It is literally he most expensive weapon in human history, bar none. Manhattan project, carriers, ICBMs, Nuclear subs, the B2,,, no. The 35 is the most expensive.

We aren’t getting something commensurate with the expense.


19 posted on 06/29/2016 9:32:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that the state deportmentthat up....)
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Well,they need the tooling for maintaining the current ones as well.

But the f22 needs to be our big boy.


20 posted on 06/29/2016 9:46:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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