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[VANITY] Utah / Mormons run to Hillary en masse. What do they think Hillary gives them?
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Posted on 06/26/2016 2:25:51 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano

GOP Officials in Utah and much of the state are running to Hillary, and they been against any type of criticism of Barack Obama. WHY?

Why is Utah (and the Mormons) so quick to attack Trump and support Hillary? Why have they been so quiet to the crazy moves Obama has made?


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To: AnthonySoprano
“Hillary isn’t going to do crap for Utah”

But it's unlikely she will do anything to stop the Federal gravy train that is immensely beneficial to the state. Utah like most of the Intermountain states is heavily dependent on the Federal gubment for jobs and cash. Hill AFB and Tooele Army Depot employ thousands, they just opened multi billion dollar NSA data center, the State got a couple of billion for the Olympic’s and they want to do it again, the roads are constantly being rebuilt with another few billion a year, they just completed a 200 million federal courthouse, there was a new FBI headquarters there is a sever billion dollar new airport under construction with almost all Federal dollars...and the list goes on.
Trump is a threat to those dollars...

81 posted on 06/26/2016 6:41:40 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Sasparilla

...Mormons run to Hillary en masse. What do they think Hillary gives them?....

____________________________________________________________

Access to the money laundering operation.


82 posted on 06/26/2016 6:44:11 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: AnthonySoprano

That makes no sense at all. Main stream Mormons would not dare support hillary over Trump, mo matter what Mitt says. There are a lot of gays and libs in Utah over the past decade or so. Even SLC has a big lefty mayor but by and large the overall Mormon populace is staunchly conservative and self reliant.


83 posted on 06/26/2016 8:21:37 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: AnthonySoprano

Obeying Bishop Romney. If true, that’s pitiful for Mormons to do.


84 posted on 06/26/2016 10:01:17 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Vaquero
Magic kankle underwear

And your own magic planet to wear it on.

86 posted on 06/26/2016 10:32:53 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: AnthonySoprano
Utah / Mormons run to Hillary en masse. What do they think Hillary gives them?

Well; Harry Reid.

They've got THAT working for them.

87 posted on 06/27/2016 5:39:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AnthonySoprano
Mia Love

Black; and a woman.

And she CHOOSES to be a MORMON???

88 posted on 06/27/2016 5:41:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ketill Frostbeard
I didn’t think there were THAT many gay mormons. LGBT has been flocking to the LDS past 5 years.

Well...



I'm a MORMON ...

http://www.affirmation.org/



89 posted on 06/27/2016 5:42:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: faithhopecharity
'Most' Mormons have been deceived by 'two personages'.

The rest are DECEIVING Mormons; spreading the falsehood.

90 posted on 06/27/2016 5:44:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AnthonySoprano
Mia Love said she’s not going to the GOP convention.

Well; I wouldn't either!!!





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

91 posted on 06/27/2016 5:46:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
More wives? Your an idiot. Maybe you should update your 125 year old information.

Oh?


THIS outta date; too?

Or are they REALLY damned???





"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

92 posted on 06/27/2016 5:49:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
More wives? Your an idiot. Maybe you should update your 125 year old information.

UPDATE just in!!!


 
 
 
OFFICIAL DECLARATION—1

To Whom It May Concern:

Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy

I, therefore, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.

One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.

Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.

There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.

WILFORD WOODRUFF
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 




President Lorenzo Snow offered the following:

“I move that, recognizing Wilford Woodruff as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the only man on the earth at the present time who holds the keys of the sealing ordinances, we consider him fully authorized by virtue of his position to issue the Manifesto which has been read in our hearing, and which is dated September 24th, 1890, and that as a Church in General Conference assembled, we accept his declaration concerning plural marriages as authoritative and binding.”

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous.

Salt Lake City, Utah, October 6, 1890.







 

EXCERPTS FROM THREE ADDRESSES BY
PRESIDENT WILFORD WOODRUFF
REGARDING THE MANIFESTO

The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.)

It matters not who lives or who dies, or who is called to lead this Church, they have got to lead it by the inspiration of Almighty God. If they do not do it that way, they cannot do it at all. . . .

I have had some revelations of late, and very important ones to me, and I will tell you what the Lord has said to me. Let me bring your minds to what is termed the manifesto. . . .

The Lord has told me to ask the Latter-day Saints a question, and He also told me that if they would listen to what I said to them and answer the question put to them, by the Spirit and power of God, they would all answer alike, and they would all believe alike with regard to this matter.

The question is this: Which is the wisest course for the Latter-day Saints to pursue—to continue to attempt to practice plural marriage, with the laws of the nation against it and the opposition of sixty millions of people, and at the cost of the confiscation and loss of all the Temples, and the stopping of all the ordinances therein, both for the living and the dead, and the imprisonment of the First Presidency and Twelve and the heads of families in the Church, and the confiscation of personal property of the people (all of which of themselves would stop the practice); or, after doing and suffering what we have through our adherence to this principle to cease the practice and submit to the law, and through doing so leave the Prophets, Apostles and fathers at home, so that they can instruct the people and attend to the duties of the Church, and also leave the Temples in the hands of the Saints, so that they can attend to the ordinances of the Gospel, both for the living and the dead?

The Lord showed me by vision and revelation exactly what would take place
if we did not stop this practice. If we had not stopped it, you would have had no use for . . . any of the men in this temple at Logan; for all ordinances would be stopped throughout the land of Zion. Confusion would reign throughout Israel, and many men would be made prisoners. This trouble would have come upon the whole Church, and we should have been compelled to stop the practice. Now, the question is, whether it should be stopped in this manner, or in the way the Lord has manifested to us, and leave our Prophets and Apostles and fathers free men, and the temples in the hands of the people, so that the dead may be redeemed. A large number has already been delivered from the prison house in the spirit world by this people, and shall the work go on or stop? This is the question I lay before the Latter-day Saints. You have to judge for yourselves. I want you to answer it for yourselves. I shall not answer it; but I say to you that that is exactly the condition we as a people would have been in had we not taken the course we have.

. . . I saw exactly what would come to pass if there was not something done. I have had this spirit upon me for a long time. But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do; and when the hour came that I was commanded to do that, it was all clear to me. I went before the Lord, and I wrote what the Lord told me to write. . . .

I leave this with you, for you to contemplate and consider. The Lord is at work with us.
(Cache Stake Conference, Logan, Utah, Sunday, November 1, 1891. Reported in Deseret Weekly, November 14, 1891.)
 
 
 

Now I will tell you what was manifested to me and what the Son of God performed in this thing. . . . All these things would have come to pass, as God Almighty lives, had not that Manifesto been given. Therefore, the Son of God felt disposed to have that thing presented to the Church and to the world for purposes in his own mind. The Lord had decreed the establishment of Zion. He had decreed the finishing of this temple. He had decreed that the salvation of the living and the dead should be given in these valleys of the mountains. And Almighty God decreed that the Devil should not thwart it. If you can understand that, that is a key to it.
 
(From a discourse at the sixth session of the dedication of the Salt Lake Temple, April 1893. Typescript of Dedicatory Services, Archives, Church Historical Department, Salt Lake City, Utah.)
 

 
 
 
 
What kind of  'Leadership' is THIS???
 
compared to...
 
 
 
 
Hebrews 11:35-40
 35.  Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
 36.  Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
 37.  They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
 38.  the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 
 
 
or compared to...
 

Acts 4:19.  But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God.
 


 
So much for an 'Everlasting Covenant' that thundered out of Heaven!!!
 
Well; it DID last about 47 years!
 



 
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President

 


93 posted on 06/27/2016 5:50:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

REAL Mormons still follow Mormon SCRIPTURE!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-Day_Saints


94 posted on 06/27/2016 5:52:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
LDS for 55 years and I’ve NEVER heard anything as idiotic as you just posted!

HMMMmmm...


https://www.bing.com/search?q=mormon+men+on+moon&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=6ec1275ddedc4c35b852e38628d44abb&pq=mormon%20men%20on%20moon

95 posted on 06/27/2016 5:54:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Mark my words.... Trump will win Utah in a LANDSLIDE!

Dang; now I am agreeing with a MORMON!!!

96 posted on 06/27/2016 5:55:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ASOC
I had hoped to retire to my property in way rural Utah, but the place in now damn near northern Mexico now. A shame, really, it was nice - once upon a time.

I just got back from there: Moab and farther south.

97 posted on 06/27/2016 5:56:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: humblegunner; teppe
How many pairs of magic underpants do you have?

If you don't do the OTHER stuff that a valid TR requires; you needent have any.

98 posted on 06/27/2016 5:58:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zathras
Mormon’s are being told by their leaders to support Hillary.


Oh; NO!

The leaders NEVER tell the pew warmers what to do!



Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

November 8, 2012

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!
 
I must apologize and ask for forgiveness from you all.
 
As you know, we at Headquarters NEVER tell you pew warmers how to vote. It says so right in our press releases. Anyway, we were ALL thrilled to the max when there were two – TWO! – MORMONs being touted in the primaries: Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman.
 
Talk in our upper chambers high above SLC was how our gods were favoring us with these men; who had prepared their entire lives for an opportunity to save this Nation; which so badly needs guidance: OUR guidance even! So naturally, I and the other twelve analyzed and discussed the situation.
 
Consensus was that the voters should listen to the inner urging and vote for the one they wanted; but that seemed to be leaving WAY too much to chance.
 
I decided, that since I am the ONLY man on earth that can hear GOD’s voice, that I would pray for wisdom and clarity in the matter.
 
I hadn’t used the fleece in a while, so I questioned GOD with a test. A paper, with Romney on one side and Huntsman on the other was to be placed by the air conditioning vent high above my desk in the sumptuous office the Full Tithers have provided.
When the air would kick in later in the evening, while I was home, the paper would be blown down and whomever GOD wanted would then be visible on the upper surface.
 
As you can probably guess, when I came in the next day, the paper had landed on my desk, with Mitt’s name on top.
Last night, I was staying late, praying to GOD about how it was even possible that Mitt lost, when the janitorial cleaning crew came in. Being surprised to find me here, they apologized for interrupting me. I said to them, “It mattereth not, as I was about to leave anyway.”
 
As I was going out the door, the foreman of the crew just happened to mention that my office is ALWAYS so neat and tiny, never anything out of place, that they barely have to do anything to tidy up. Then one of the sweepers said, “Except that time in the spring when we came in to clean and found a paper with Huntman’s name on the floor by your desk. We put it back on your desk and left.
 
 
Tommy M.
 
Onward to 2016!!!

99 posted on 06/27/2016 6:00:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Here in UT the few who are DIMs and for clintoon are truly mentally ill. They are shunned and ostracized. I believe they are weirdo implants from the LIB hinterlands outside the state. I’m not LDS...and that is true for many in UT.


100 posted on 06/27/2016 6:01:46 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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