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To: HangUpNow; rockrr; x
HangUpNow: "And you actually believe that crap??
"Military power"??
HA! Man, what a bizarre delusion.
Nice propaganda."

Sorry, but the "delusions" are all yours.
The fact is, you don't know your own history, and that's what makes your own posts so "bizarre".

In early 1861, the United States Army totaled around 17,000 men, most scattered in small forts out west.
If you wished to compare those to today, the 1860 population was roughly 30 million, today's about 300 million, meaning ten times more.
So 17,000 in 1861 equates to 170,000 today, which is 1/3 of today's actual deeply depleted strength and it's even one third less than the 270,000 of pre-wwii 1940.
In other words, the US in 1861 was less prepared for war than we were in 1940!

By sharp contrast, one of the Confederacy's first acts, in March 1861 even before Lincoln's inauguration, was to call up 100,000 men, a call young Southerners eagerly responded to.
At that same time, Jefferson Davis ordered preparations for a military assault on Fort Sumter, such that by April 12, Confederates had gathered up 5,000 men on 4,000 guns and mortars to assault 85 Union troops with 21 guns in the fort.
Of course, Confederates were short of ammo, but still had enough to do the job of forcing Major Anderson's surrender.

So, by April 12, 1861 the Confederate army outnumbered the entire Union army nearly six to one, and at Fort Sumter nearly sixty to one.

HangUpNow: "Lincoln-the-Fascist coerced by bloody force those whose FREE WILL and personal/State sovereignty were violated."

Total rubbish, garbage talk of the worst kind.
In fact, the Confederacy was left totally free to do whatever it wanted, until it started and declared war on the United States.

HangUpNow: "He also violated the rights of many young men in the North of whom did not want to be drafted just to bleed and die for Lincoln's puppetmeister Yankee Elites."

In fact, from the beginning, state militias were drafted in every US war, and President Madison first proposed a national draft for the War of 1812, which Congress then did not think necessary.

But Congress did think a national draft necessary for the Civil War, and so authorized it.

Nothing unconstitutional, illegal or "violating" about a draft in wartime.

665 posted on 07/17/2016 3:49:04 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; rustbucket; PeaRidge; x; rockrr
Sorry, but the "delusions" are all yours.

The fact is, you don't know your own history, and that's what makes your own posts so "bizarre".

You just know well enough to get out of your on way, do you?

Firstly, there is NOTHING more bizarre and delusional than your utterly insane Alinsky-ite characterization that myself and DiogenesLamp are, "Marxists/Democrat/Alinksyite posers consumed with Liberal angst."

Secondly, *my* understanding of the newly revealed "history" is the truth as opposed to the traditionally-indoctrinated/fabricated myths, "Da North fought ovah slavery" meme; "Lincoln saved da Union."; "Da South started a YUGE war at Charleston."

You can keep on created red herrings all you want; You can keep on failing to answer the devastating detailed rebuttals and dynamics forged by DiogenesLamp, Rustbucket, and PeaRidge; You can keep on ignoring the simple principle of the righteous, rightful, and legal personal and State sovereignty issue of the Confederacy...

You and your cohorts have failed to make you case that a coercive blitzkrieg by Lincoln and his cabal of profiteering pirates and vampires that wound up killing 700,000 Americans, maimed hundreds of thousands more, and scorched earth policy upon the South was justifiable, legal, moral, or necessary. PERIOD.

681 posted on 07/17/2016 9:17:44 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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