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To: BroJoeK
Much more careful studies still show Deep South cotton hugely important to total US exports, but not 72%, rather closer to 50% depending on what-all you include. And US tariffs in 1860 averaged around 15%, not the "30% to 50%" the piece claims.

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But none of this was listed as a "Cause of Secession" in any secessionist state document.

Really? Perhaps you just didn't look very hard once you found the word "Slavery."

The Southern States now stand in the same relation toward the Northern States, in the vital matter of taxation, that our ancestors stood toward the people of Great Britain. They are in a minority in Congress. Their representation in Congress is useless to protect them against unjust taxation, and they are taxed by the people of the North for their benefit exactly as the people of Great Britain taxed our ancestors in the British Parliament for their benefit. For the last forty years the taxes laid by the Congress of the United States have been laid with a view of subserving the interests of the North. The people of the South have been taxed by duties on imports not for revenue, but for an object inconsistent with revenue -- to promote, by prohibitions, Northern interests in the productions of their mines and manufactures.

There is another evil in the condition of the Southern toward the Northern States, which our ancestors refused to bear toward Great Britain. Our ancestors not only taxed themselves, but all the taxes collected from them were expended among them. Had they submitted to the pretensions of the British Government, the taxes collected from them would have been expended on other parts of the British Empire. They were fully aware of the effect of such a policy in impoverishing the people from whom taxes are collected, and in enriching those who receive the benefit of their expenditure. To prevent the evils of such a policy was one of the motives which drove them on to revolution. Yet this British policy has been fully realized toward the Southern States by the Northern States. The people of the Southern States are not only taxed for the benefit of the Northern States, but after the taxes are collected three-fourths of them are expended at the North. This cause, with others connected with the operation of the General Government, has provincialized the cities of the South. Their growth is paralyzed, while they are the mere suburbs of Northern cities. The bases of the foreign commerce of the United States are the agricultural productions of the South; yet Southern cities do not carry it on. Our foreign trade is almost annihilated. In 1740 there were five shipyards in South Carolina to build ships to carry on our direct trade with Europe. Between 1740 and 1779 there were built in these yards twenty-five square-rigged vessels, beside a great number of sloops and schooners to carry on our coast and West India trade. In the half century immediately preceding the Revolution, from 1725 to 1775, the population of South Carolina increased seven-fold.

Wasn't the Port at South Carolina the sticking point? The Union quietly relinquished Forts all over the South, but not *THAT* one.

Funny that.

621 posted on 07/15/2016 3:54:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
BJK: "But none of this was listed as a "Cause of Secession" in any secessionist state document."

DiogenesLamp: "Really? Perhaps you just didn't look very hard once you found the word "Slavery." "

Official "Reasons for Secession" were drawn up by South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia and Texas at the time of their secessions.
All focused heavily on slavery, some exclusively, mentioning nothing else of significance, including South Carolina's.

Here is a site that even attempts to put percentages on how much of the reasons were slavery, how much other issues.
But it's pretty ridiculous, because those "other issues" all relate back to slavery.
Tariffs are not even a category.

Even the South Carolina letter in your link is, by my count, concerned twice as much with slavery as with economics or tariffs.
Indeed, it's dated as "1861" meaning written well after South Carolina's actual declaration of secession, and likely just as the Morrill Tariff debate re-emerged in Congress.
In short, tariffs were an afterthought, not the original prime mover of secession.

675 posted on 07/17/2016 7:32:28 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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