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To: DiogenesLamp
[Hangup]: Today we are still paying for the tyranny, social, and economic aftermath of Lincoln's template of dictatorship and feral overreach, fake reasons for the CW, and subsequent routine shredding of the USCON by Wilson, FDR, LBJ, 0blah-blah, and yes, Dubya Bush.

[DiogenesLamp]: And this is a point many people do not grasp when the topic of the "Civil War" comes up. We are still suffering from the long term consequences of that conflict to this very day.

Washington and New York still have an unholy alliance that pits the financial interests of the New England power brokers against the rest of the nation. This movement towards "Globalization" is an example of it.

The current day power brokers of whom you speak are more widespread than just New England. Back in Civil War times, they were also in New York and Pennsylvania in addition to New England.

Some New Englanders have very parochial attitudes. I went to college in Massachusetts with New Englanders who had never been west of the Hudson River and saw no reason to go. For them, Boston was the hub of the universe.

549 posted on 07/12/2016 12:13:14 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket; DiogenesLamp
Some New Englanders have very parochial attitudes.

I went to college in Massachusetts with New Englanders who had never been west of the Hudson River and saw no reason to go. For them, Boston was the hub of the universe.

I think we understand that; They are very parochial or provincial -- geographically as well as philosophically. Others may construe their thinking as "Cultish." Ot "Stepford Wife-ish." Not that it's all that uncommon for liberals/progs.

The current day power brokers of whom you speak are more widespread than just New England. Back in Civil War times, they were also in New York and Pennsylvania in addition to New England.

Understood, but as a result of that same "parochial" mind set that was established long ago, they remain snobby New England cultists at heart and in spirit where ever they wind up. Their "base" remains the NE corridor from their beloved Bahston to DC. I imagine your frat parties must have been chock full of one insufferable jerk after another.

551 posted on 07/12/2016 12:38:38 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: rustbucket
The current day power brokers of whom you speak are more widespread than just New England. Back in Civil War times, they were also in New York and Pennsylvania in addition to New England.

Some New Englanders have very parochial attitudes. I went to college in Massachusetts with New Englanders who had never been west of the Hudson River and saw no reason to go. For them, Boston was the hub of the universe.

Yes, that is completely true. The "Cohort" of the elite, is now widespread and international in scope. I just read several articles recently which noted that this "Glitteratti" and Wealthy Elite consist of a "Cohort" from which they strive to keep others ejected. They live behind guarded walls and strong bars, and from there exhort the rest of us to indulge and tolerate the savages in our midst.

Los Angeleas certainly produces copious amounts of propaganda for the support of "The Cohort's " positions and for their efforts in getting and holding power.

They hate the rest of us here in "Flyover Country" and they most especially hate Christian White Males who will not buckle under to their Nietzschean efforts to remake our populace into one that is worthy of their "superior man."

553 posted on 07/12/2016 1:03:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rustbucket

When I lived in Louisiana and Alabama I met many people who had never in their lives been beyond the outskirts of their town. parochialism is a universal concept.


561 posted on 07/12/2016 2:40:45 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rustbucket; rockrr
Some New Englanders have very parochial attitudes. I went to college in Massachusetts with New Englanders who had never been west of the Hudson River and saw no reason to go. For them, Boston was the hub of the universe.

There are no Southerners who've never been north? No Westerners who've never been East?

I can't say if I met Northerners in school who hadn't been south to Florida or South Carolina or west to California or Nevada. Cross-country family trips were pretty common for the middle class. But I did know kids from the South who'd never seen snow.

563 posted on 07/12/2016 2:58:12 PM PDT by x
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To: rustbucket; DiogenesLamp; HangUpNow; rockrr
rustbucket trying to explain geography to clueless HangUp & DiogenesLamp: "Some New Englanders have very parochial attitudes.
I went to college in Massachusetts with New Englanders who had never been west of the Hudson River and saw no reason to go.
For them, Boston was the hub of the universe."

Nice try, FRiend, but it seems that, to DiogenesLamp & HungUp anything north of Virginia or west of Texas is "New England".

635 posted on 07/17/2016 8:02:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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