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To: jmacusa

**It went to war to preserve the Union and won.**

True, but the Union though it would be over in 90 days. Turned into a four year long slugfest. New York rebelled against the Union draft, Lots of Copperheads also wanted peace at any price.
Meanwhile in the SOUTH, men who had no slaves were being drafted to go to war.
Quite a war for “firsts”.
First Ironclad, CSS Manassas.
Then came the CSS Virginia
USS Cumberland sunk. USS Congress burned.
First Submarine CSS Hunley
First Union ship sunk by a torpedo, USS Housatonic.
First UNION ship, USS Cairo, sunk by a Southern electric mine.
Confederate Raider CSS Alabama cleared the ocean of Union whaling fleet before being sunk.
Many of the Indian tribes from Canada to Mexico went to war against the Union, hoping to get a better deal from the South. Two Confederate agents were caught among the Southern Cheyenne at Sand Creek.
Last Confederate General to surrender, Stand Watie, Cherokee Confederate army.


26 posted on 06/23/2016 6:02:15 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

First war to use electronic communication, the telegraph. First war to be photographed. First war to use aircraft, hot air balloons for observation. There were firsts for the South. The undeniable fact is they lost the war. The lost the war the moment they decided to go to war.


28 posted on 06/23/2016 6:06:40 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Yeah, poor dumb Southerners who went to war for slave owning paltroons.
29 posted on 06/23/2016 6:10:55 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Last Confederate General to surrender, Stand Watie, Cherokee Confederate army.

Wow. Stand Watie! We had a FReeper here years ago named Stand Watie. I wonder if he is still around?

63 posted on 06/24/2016 4:59:54 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I just searched for Stand Watie. He abruptly stopped posting September 3, 2009. Here is his last post:

that figures. crude garbage (like you, for example) generally has no sense of SHAME.
be GONE, as DECENT people (especially ladies & children) don’t want to be exposed to your STUPIDITY & arrogant VULGARITY. (i also note that when you showed up on this thread, most people LEFT. that should tell you something about how other FReepers see your moronic antics.)

free dixie,sw

Oh my, maybe he got banned? That’s a shame. He was an interesting poster.


65 posted on 06/24/2016 5:04:05 PM PDT by ladyjane
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