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To: DoodleDawg; BroJoeK
In 1860, Slavery accounted for 3/4ths of all cargo carried by the New England New York shipping industry

Oh for God's sake, your claims are growing crazier by the hour.

You are welcome to produce your source of the value and origin of the cargo carried by the New York shipping industry. Here is mine.

BroJoeK has already admitted that the 1/4th of the population living in the South contributed 50% of the total export value. The sources I have say it was 72% in 1860.

Put your source on the table and let us examine it.

1,096 posted on 09/21/2016 1:26:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Here is the economic data: (from Historical Statistics of the US, Dept. of Commerce, pg. 164)
Receipts of US Government for 1859—$53,486,000

Revenue from tariffs in 1859—$49,566,000

Federal government spent all of this on Congressional items, Navy and Army budgets, interest on public debt, and veterans pensions.

Tariff data: In 1859 tariff revenue was $49,566,000 on $331,333,000 worth of imports.

The exports from the US that bought those goods were worth $278,902,000 at the ports of exit from the US.

Of that amount, the value of cotton, tobacco, rice, naval stores, sugar, molasses, hemp, cotton manufactures (all originating in the South) was worth $198,309,000 (Statistical abstract of the US, 1936 edition,pgs 435-439) or about 71%.

Adams uses the figures of 87% which is the above amounts, plus he adds the value of tariffs paid on overseas purchases made with cash by Southern governments.

If you want the actual tables for mulit-year data, let me know.

1,104 posted on 09/21/2016 2:20:55 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg
DiogenesLamp: "BroJoeK has already admitted that the 1/4th of the population living in the South contributed 50% of the total export value.
The sources I have say it was 72% in 1860."

To be precise, in 1860 roughly 50% of US imports (thus duties) were paid for by exports of cotton.
This includes those imports paid for by specie (California gold)transfers.

Your 72% is only valid if you exclude some categories of payments for imports.

1,199 posted on 10/01/2016 5:04:19 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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