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House drops Confederate Flag ban for veterans cemeteries
politico.com ^ | 6/23/16 | Matthew Nussbaum

Posted on 06/23/2016 2:04:08 PM PDT by ColdOne

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To: Godebert

Boy, your mind is full of snakes. The Founders were not trying, at first, to break away from the Crown. They simply wanted the same rights other Englishmen enjoyed in the ‘’Mother Country’’ They still considered them to be Englishmen and British subjects but, in short, looney King George refused them this and so they rebelled. No, the CBF is NOT an American flag, it is a flag of treason and while many would revere it, I hardly think that ‘’millions’’ do , many more do not revere it even though men are capable for fighting bravely for an evil cause and the cause that the CBF stood WAS evil.


101 posted on 06/25/2016 10:57:56 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: rockrr
There’s no evidence that a single slave was sold at Faneuil Hall.

Why do you keep denying that? Northerners were major slave traffickers. They bought and sold slaves as early as the 1630's

From the website theclio re Faneuil Hall - "The hall itself was built by artist John Smilbert and funded in part by profits made from the African slave trade. Construction started in 1740, and ended in 1742 when it first opened up to the public, and some of Boston's earliest slave auctions took place at Faneuil Hall. Yet aside from slave auctions and other public goods, Faneuil Hall was also the site of where Samuel Adams made an important speech as did several other patriots during the American Revolution, and in 1764 it was where Bostonians protested against the Sugar Act as they wanted no taxation without representation. "

Northerners find it very painful to learn that their ancestors not only owned slaves, but they made great fortunes in the slave trade. It was northern ships that carried many of the slaves and it was the north that rounded up Indians and sold them down in the islands in exchange for black slaves.

BTW - Clio is the Muse of History. The website is run and written by historians. They know more about the slave trade than public school teachers who perpetuate some of the myths about slavery.

102 posted on 06/25/2016 11:00:42 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
And to emphasize my previous point, here are some quotes from the Chicago Daily Times. December 10, 1860

“In one single blow our foreign commerce must be reduced to less than one-half what it now is. Our coastwise trade would pass into other hands. One-half of our shipping would lie idle at our wharves. We should lose our trade with the South, with all of its immense profits. Our manufactories would be in utter ruins. Let the South adopt the free-trade system or that of a tariff for revenue and these results would likely follow.”

“In the enforcement of the revenue laws the forts [like Fort Sumter] are of primary importance. Their guns cover just so much ground as is necessary to enable the United States to enforce their laws. Those forts the United States must maintain. It is not a question of coercing South Carolina, but enforcing the revenue laws. The practical point, either way, is whether the revenue laws of the United States shall or shall not be enforced at those three Ports, Charleston, Beaufort and Georgetown, or whether they shall or shall not be made free ports, open to the commerce of the world, with no other restriction upon it than South Carolina shall see proper to impose. Forts are to be used to enforce the revenue laws…not to conquer a State.”

The Union launched the war to protect their money stream. they used "Slavery" as a propaganda tool to recruit and then later to justify the evil thing that they had done.

We have been lied to all these years. The deeper I dig, the more lies I find.

The Civil War was a war over *MONEY*, not Slavery. The Union was perfectly content to allow slavery to continue so long as they were making their cut of money off of it.

103 posted on 06/25/2016 11:02:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ladyjane

I keep denying it because there has yet to be offered evidence. Some website opining that it happened means squat. Show me records of sales, inventories, certificates of title and I may believe your claim.


104 posted on 06/25/2016 11:03:53 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

I bought a Confederate Battle Flag today. I shall proudly display it in my living room. The SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!


105 posted on 06/25/2016 11:05:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: Lazamataz

Congratulations. I hope that it was made in America.


106 posted on 06/25/2016 11:06:22 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: RummyChick

My great-grandfather was born in 1835 and fought for Indiana. Truth is, had he been born in Alabama, he’d have fought for Alabama.


107 posted on 06/25/2016 11:06:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: jmacusa

The *EVIL* was launching a war over *MONEY* and then lying about it and saying you were doing something noble. No, the snakes are the Robber Barons of New York (same as today) and they bought and paid for their Liberal President from Illinois (same as today) and they launched that war to protect their own monopoly of power. (Same as today)


108 posted on 06/25/2016 11:06:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rockrr

It was made in GEORGIA baby.

I’m a born-agin Southron! :)


109 posted on 06/25/2016 11:08:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: Lazamataz

Even better. Enjoy.


110 posted on 06/25/2016 11:09:38 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa; Godebert

King George explicitly accused the American colonists of treason. It’s a charge will all the flexibility of ‘racism’.

Dwight Eisenhower proudly displayed the portaits of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson on his office wall. Perhaps in your mind he was celebrating treason.


111 posted on 06/25/2016 11:12:34 AM PDT by Pelham (Obama and his Islam infested administration)
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To: rockrr; usconservative
I bought it from Wildman's Shop in Kennesaw. The Kennesaw Mountain Battle Park happened to have some reinactments today, usc and I caught the Artillery Drill. Awesome. After that we headed over to Wildman's -- he's an unrepentant Southron and he's the sort of guy I wanna support with my consumer dollars. Maybe a touch racist (real racist) for my tastes, but I admire his unrepentant nature at least. :)

Wildman

112 posted on 06/25/2016 11:13:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: Lazamataz

“The Best Little War House in Kennesaw”

LOL

Never been to Kennesaw but I bet that store is a blast to explore. Last time I was in Georgia (other than a stop in Atlanta) was as kids when we visited Stone Mountain park in the ‘60s


113 posted on 06/25/2016 11:17:06 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Pelham

Old Dwight was free to think as he did even though he was a Republican. This Republican thinks of The Confederate flag as a flag of treason and separation.


115 posted on 06/25/2016 11:19:21 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

I’m a Confederate.

Damned proud of it, too.


116 posted on 06/25/2016 11:19:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: jmacusa
This Republican thinks of The Confederate flag as a flag of treason and separation.

I fly my flag directly at YOU.

117 posted on 06/25/2016 11:20:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Oh Christ, look what crawled out of the swamp. Oh Yeah Lampster it was about money alright. Money made off the backs of black slaves.


118 posted on 06/25/2016 11:21:26 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: rockrr

It’s cluttered as hell but he has period-authentic muskets, revolvers, uniforms... you have to have sharp eyes but there’s a ton of history in Wildman’s shop.


119 posted on 06/25/2016 11:21:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: jmacusa
No, the CBF is NOT an American flag, it is a flag of treason and while many would revere it, I hardly think that ‘’millions’’ do , many more do not revere it even though men are capable for fighting bravely for an evil cause and the cause that the CBF stood WAS evil.

Then, just like the leftist democrats of the north, you must believe that our slaving owning Founding Fathers also fought for an evil cause. Your 'holier than thou' rants are pathetic and shameful. You should be embarrassed.

120 posted on 06/25/2016 11:23:34 AM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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