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Supreme Court Upholds Affirmative Action Program at University of Texas
New York Times ^ | June 23 2016 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 06/23/2016 7:26:00 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: Alter Kaker

It now will be impossible for any person of color to claim they were admitted to the University of Texas based on merit. They will always be suspect in the eyes of business and the general public. People of color who did get in based on merit should file suit now that they have been demeaned.


61 posted on 06/23/2016 11:49:51 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Diversity for the sake of diversity is just flat out stupidity.)
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To: AppyPappy

Most people don’t know it, but athletes are allowed to take remedial courses at community colleges that will count toward their NCAA eligibility. One reason many athletes leave after their sophomore year is that they have run out of remedial coursework and they can’t hack regular coursework, even though they are given a tremendous amount of help.


62 posted on 06/23/2016 11:57:22 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Diversity for the sake of diversity is just flat out stupidity.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“But we don’t pay taxes to Caesar to get Caesar’s nephews in.”

If a person is a liberal (or progressive, or leftist, or whatever euphemism is current) and is in a position to hire, what are the odds that he is going to hire people who disagree with him on every element of his world view?

As Alexander Solzhenitsin wrote, “Evil people always support each other; that is their main strength.”

No Obama voter is going to hire anyone who is not as evil as she is herself. This isn’t JFK/RFK nepotism, but it is tribal nepotism.

We must clean out (or, better, abolish) our bureaucracies from top to bottom, and those fired must never be rehired in any job that pays more than minimum wage.


63 posted on 06/23/2016 1:00:37 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

“One reason many athletes leave after their sophomore year is that they have run out of remedial coursework and they can’t hack regular coursework, even though they are given a tremendous amount of help.”

One of my work-study jobs back in the 1970s was helping a college basketball player who had realized he was not going to the NBA. He was a senior, and could not read his textbooks.


64 posted on 06/23/2016 1:04:23 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Ha, how do we implement that under the constitution. It would be a violation of freedom to do private business.


65 posted on 06/23/2016 2:29:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Diversity is important? I don’t remember reading that in the Constitution. So state based racism is sometimes just okay? We are so screwed if this is what amounts to careful decisions.


66 posted on 06/23/2016 3:20:46 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alter Kaker

Nothing like supporting institutional racism against all non-African races to set the wrongs right. Such is the ghost that was once higher and enlightened education.


67 posted on 06/23/2016 4:29:45 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarme)
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To: Alter Kaker
Justice Elena Kagan had recused herself

But didn't recuse herself on the gay marriage vote..

68 posted on 06/23/2016 5:13:57 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ginsburg & Kennedy would have to be replaced before you could get a full spectrum decision on this. "In 2003 Justice O'Connor authored a majority Supreme Court opinion (Grutter v. Bollinger) saying racial affirmative action wouldn't be constitutional permanently but long enough to correct past discrimination ─ an approximation limit of around 25 years, or until 2028.[48] " Then O'Connor came out more recently and said it should be forever. You need to get rid of Kennedy & Ginsburg with some alpha-males appointed by Trump. Then hear the whole thing about considering race at all in admissions.
69 posted on 06/23/2016 7:33:27 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal (Senator Scott Brown or Governor Pat McCrory for Donald Trump's VP)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Kennedy gotta have that “legacy”.

Here is the unintended legacy I see.

If disparate treatment based on race is constitutional in service of the compelling governmental interest of diversity in education, then disparate treatment based on religion is constitutional in the interest of national security. And disparate treatment based on national origin is constitutional to protect national borders.

Donald Trump says Thank You.

Makes more sense than the constitutional garbage announced today.

70 posted on 06/23/2016 7:56:10 PM PDT by plymaniac
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To: Crucial

Even more damaging, it reinforces an official government policy that in fact blacks and Hispanics ARE inferior. The same government that insists we treat them as equals simultaneously insists they are not.

The worst part comes afterwards, where the recipients of fake educations slam into the wall of reality in the workforce (if they can even find work). They initially don’t want to accept that they’ve been handed worthless paper in unearned degrees (even high school diplomas), and when reality eventually sinks in they are even more combative and resentful. Tokens are a nasty, angry bunch - an absolute horror for co-workers and supervisors.


71 posted on 06/23/2016 8:04:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Neoliberalnot

An African co-worker (not American) was boasting of a masters degree; he has a good work ethic but is functionally illiterate (never mind cursive; he can’t PRINT). I was puzzled as to how he came by this, then learned that the state school that issued it had lost its accreditation and was recently in the news because a blacktivist had sent a fake tweet threatening blacks (she was just sentenced to six months in prison a couple of days ago, and has to pay thousands for the police response). These “colleges” are just places for tokens to “play school” for a few years before going out to “play work”.

Unfortunately for this African fellow, he doesn’t realize yet that his degree (for which he must have paid something) is worthless; anyone spending two minutes with him will realize he is a well-meaning semi-literate that can never produce a legible email, never mind a meaningful report.


72 posted on 06/23/2016 8:32:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Alter Kaker

Isn’t “Affirmative Action” simply a law that can be removed?


73 posted on 06/23/2016 8:32:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Alter Kaker

BBC WORLD NEWS JUST CALLED IT FOR BREXIT


74 posted on 06/23/2016 8:38:20 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: plymaniac

Yeah but since when has “making sense” applied to the SC?

One can always tell what the Robotic 4 are going to do. NONE of them has one clue about the Constitution. And giving all the power to “Swing Vote” Legacy Kennedy is far too much concentration in one guy, esp one out to secure favortism

Just another reason to vote against Hillary. She will appoint more non thinking, affirmative action type “judges”. and then more hell will break loose


75 posted on 06/23/2016 9:04:33 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (#BoycottTarget Women & children hurt the most. #BoycottPGA.)
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To: ConservativeMind

In an ideal world, yes. Unfortunately, courts are forcing it on businesses by threatening lawsuits for having “preferred minorities” underrepresented at all levels.

Just as women opting for childrearing/caring for parents/other options hasn’t prevented lawsuits citing “gender discrimination”, now American companies have to worry about illiterate minorities with PhDs on their payrolls - and defend why they pay them $10 per hour to file - they have PhDs!!!


76 posted on 06/24/2016 4:16:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“how do we implement that under the constitution. It would be a violation of freedom to do private business.”

Sorry, I’m not following. Are we talking about cleaning out bureaucracies?


77 posted on 06/24/2016 9:45:42 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Penalize the people dismissed by forbidding them to earn more than minimum wage afterwards in private business?

Are we talking any measure to clean out bureaucracies including vindictiveness?

Also, even if it is only about re-employment in civil service, we are to blame if the rules are so lax that bureaus can become ‘cratic anyhow.


78 posted on 06/24/2016 11:04:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Penalize the people dismissed by forbidding them to earn more than minimum wage afterwards in private business?”

I was presuming that most people would think hanging, drawing, and quartering to be excessive.

“Are we talking any measure to clean out bureaucracies including vindictiveness?”

Are you saying they don’t deserve punishment for their treachery?

“Also, even if it is only about re-employment in civil service, we are to blame if the rules are so lax that bureaus can become ‘cratic anyhow.”

No. Satan is smarter than we are, and he never sleeps. The only one on this earth he could never get over on was Our Lord. It took his minions a long time (by our standards) to weasel their way to the top of our bureaucracies, especially back when good men actually opposed them.

Our bureaucracies are just another battleground in the ancient battle of good versus evil, and it’s not our fault that evil showed up.


79 posted on 06/24/2016 11:30:03 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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