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How Do You Stop a Future Terrorist When the Only Evidence Is a Thought?
New York Times ^ | June 21, 2016 | RUKMINI CALLIMACHI

Posted on 06/23/2016 6:25:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1

MAGNANVILLE, France — The first time Larossi Abballa appeared on the radar of French terrorism investigators, the only act of violence they could pin on him was killing bunnies.

He had joined a small group of men, all bent on waging jihad, on a trip to a snowy forest in northern France five years ago, when he was 19. There, they videotaped themselves slaughtering the rabbits, bought so the men could grow used to the feel of killing.

When he and seven others were later arrested, the authorities found that several of the men had saved the video of the slaughter on their cellphones, alongside footage of soldiers being beheaded, according to French court records. Mr. Abballa was eventually convicted on a terrorism charge and spent more than two years in prison.

In hindsight, it is not hard to see how that first act of brutality foreshadowed what happened last week: Armed with a knife, Mr. Abballa attacked a couple in northern France in the name of the Islamic State and left them to bleed to death.

But at the time of his arrest in 2011, investigators were not able to definitively show that he was a permanent threat to France. After his prison stint, he was placed under surveillance. Just months after the wiretaps stopped, he committed the double murder last week.

Across Europe and the United States, law enforcement officials are struggling to reckon with attackers like Mr. Abballa and Omar Mateen, whose shooting rampage this month at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., left 49 dead. They are men who clearly seemed to be building toward violent acts, and whose names had surfaced in terrorism investigations, but who avoided crossing legal lines that could tip off the authorities until it was too late.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; muslims; terrorism
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To: semimojo; Delta 21; vsEPAwarrior

As semimojo indicated these statments about Japan are false.

All in all it is true that Japan has overall strict immigration policies preventing uncontrolled third-world mass immigration and a strong local cultural identity that disfavors the creation of hostile parallel cultures.

However it is not true that Japan specifically bans muslim immigration or prohibits intermarriage. That’s utter nonsense.

As one particular example: since the 1980’s there are ten thousands of Iranians who came as guestworkers in Japan - many have stayed. Now it is businessmen and also students from various majority islamic countries that have a presence in Japan.

There also are mosques in Japan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_Japan

Regarding Arabic/Islamic studies:

Arabic Studies in Tokyo University of Foreign Studies:
http://www.tufs.ac.jp/english/education/ug/studies/arabic.html

There even is a Saudi-funded “Arabic Islamic Institute” in Tokyo: http://www.aii-t.org/e/

Islamic School in Osaka:
http://iiso-jp.org/


21 posted on 06/23/2016 7:22:55 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood

Those stubborn, meme-busting facts ...


22 posted on 06/23/2016 7:24:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Estos sufrimientos pasaran, y la esperanza una salida marcara." ~ Abp. Romero)
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Additionally to my previous post...

Turkish studies in Tokyo:
http://www.tufs.ac.jp/english/education/ug/studies/turkish.html

Persian studies in Tokyo:
http://www.tufs.ac.jp/english/education/ug/studies/persian.html

Urdu (spoken in Afghanistan/Pakistan) in Tokyo:
http://www.tufs.ac.jp/english/education/ug/studies/urdu.html


23 posted on 06/23/2016 7:26:23 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood
Fake but accurate. Dont take my decoder ring away!

I like this. --

All in all it is true that Japan has overall strict immigration policies
preventing uncontrolled third-world mass immigration and a strong
local cultural identity that disfavors the creation of hostile parallel cultures.

24 posted on 06/23/2016 7:29:27 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21
It certainly speaks in favor of Japan that their policies and societal strength virtually forces all immigrants to adapt to Japanese mainstream culture and not vice-versa. As a final information, let me however add the dependance of Japan upon oil imports from islamic countries:
25 posted on 06/23/2016 7:37:50 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: reaganaut1

Easy. Deport all Muslims, close all mosques.


26 posted on 06/23/2016 7:50:36 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: reaganaut1
How Do You Stop a Future Terrorist When the Only Evidence Is a Thought?

First, establish a short checklist.

Is the "person of interest" muslim? Yes/No

Has the "person of interest" expressed a public interest in committing acts of terror or otherwise doing harm to innocents? Yes/No

Depending on the results, remove the "person of interest" from the ability to carry out his evil plans. Quietly. How that happens, or by whom, doesn't matter much, as long as they don't find the body. Repeat as necessary until the problem resolves itself by migration back to whatever middle easter piss-hole from which they crawled.

Remember all the muslims that fled the US after 9/11?

27 posted on 06/23/2016 7:51:15 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: reaganaut1

If someone joins a club that tells everybody who joins it to terrorize and kill people outside the club until everybody is forced to submit to the club, and has a rule that people that try to quit the club are to be killed, and people that question the wisdom of the club are to be killed, and that people that merely pretend to be loyal to the club and are not utterly and truly committed are to be killed...if that person wants to immigrate to your country without renouncing the principles of his club in favor of decent civilized behavior, and you let him in, and he kills people....do not blame yourself for endangering lives of innocent people. Instead work your hardest to disarm the innocent people and to import more people from the club.


28 posted on 06/23/2016 8:32:49 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: reaganaut1

How Do You Stop a Future Terrorist When the Only Evidence Is a Thought?


The KGB knew how. You make the consequences to him, his family, and his loved ones so draconian, immediate, and inevitable that the thought dies in his head before it ever reaches the state of execution.

It just depends on how serious you are about stopping terrorism.


29 posted on 06/23/2016 8:41:46 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t let them in to your country in the first place. There should be no more of place for Islam in the West than there is for worshipers of the Aztec pantheon.


30 posted on 06/23/2016 8:46:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: reaganaut1

the answer is profiling.

only the infantile thinkers on the left consider this an inhuman tactic in the war on terror.

it is the only rational way to protect the citizens from threats hiding amongst them.

who in their right mind at that secrurity company thought it was a good idea to hire and arm a muslim immigrant from afghanistan who had a history of making jihad friendly comments all the way back to 9/11?

he should have been profiled right out of that job. and the FBI who dropped the ball when they REPEATEDLY investigated him, bears partial responsibility for what happened.


31 posted on 06/23/2016 9:02:44 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: sparklite2

there is an idiom that most people here in the West don’t understand. it’s called “to the ninth degree” or “to the nth degree” and is used to mean “to a great extent or with extreme thoroughness”. it’s not uncommon to hear English speakers say this about one mundane thing or another.

the story of its origin is not generally known though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations


32 posted on 06/23/2016 9:07:23 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: reaganaut1

How do you stop...? You don’t obviously. Instead you disarm his victims and give him free reign. Fundamental transformation.


33 posted on 06/23/2016 9:25:24 AM PDT by DPMD (o)
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To: Delta 21

Japan has it right.


34 posted on 06/23/2016 10:45:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Vote Trump 2016~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything's gonna be alright. 👍)
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To: Gator113

Except that the statements about Japan are not true.
See responses above.


35 posted on 06/24/2016 1:52:04 AM PDT by SolidWood
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