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In a Mass Shooting, Wait and Die? Or Fight Back?
PJ Media ^ | June 17, 2016 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 06/17/2016 6:03:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: HiTech RedNeck

We are back to my post #32, aren’t we?

Each active shooter situation is certainly different; situational awareness and the ability to think fast and clearly, whether armed or unarmed, seems to me to be of great importance.


61 posted on 06/18/2016 7:04:39 AM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: Kaslin

Do we have the courage to repeal the prohibition on drugs? Nope. Too many careers at stake fighting the war on drugs, too much power to be ceded.


62 posted on 06/18/2016 7:08:55 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Kaslin

Be aware of exits
Be aware of those around you
Do not fight on the shooters terms. Scoot to safety and plan a counter attack.
Wait to fight when the situation turns to your advantage.

Also, found out about HEMA, historic europe martial arts.
This group studies all the written records concerning armed combat, before the gun era.
Hand to hand combat, swords, daggers, even stuff like wooden rods, etc


63 posted on 06/18/2016 7:14:39 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: vetvetdoug

Good on you! I remember the case and was amazed at your bravery.

My son who is ex-US Army tier 1 is convinced that active closer on the shooter is the answer in most cases. He was in many gun fights in the Sandbox and he is no cowboy just a very effective soldier. We practice it every time we drill. He has had armed terrorists turn and run when active closer is employed.


64 posted on 06/18/2016 7:17:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: ThunderSleeps

Not only reload, he was texting his wife during the attack.


65 posted on 06/18/2016 7:34:06 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: exDemMom

I’ve posted on here before - the weapons are all in my head. The rest is just hardware.


66 posted on 06/18/2016 8:35:49 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Better Call Saul (Alinsky). "Make them live by their own rules")
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To: Kaslin
I'm no hero, and dead heroes don't do their families a bit of good. If I thought I had a chance to get out alive, I'd be high tailing it out of the situation as fast as my little legs could carry me..........

If I thought there was little or no chance of escape, then I'd have to attack and hope I had some help. It's amazing how adrenaline can help in a fight back situation.

67 posted on 06/18/2016 8:44:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My only regret in life is being too young to get to know my grandfathers before they died)
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To: Hardastarboard

Exactly.

The only way you can disarm someone is by putting him/her in a padded cell. And even then, I’m not so certain they are really disarmed.


68 posted on 06/18/2016 8:52:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: vetvetdoug

Thank you for your service and your prompt, life saving reaction. I pray I would do the same. God bless you and your family.


69 posted on 06/18/2016 10:57:19 AM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: GregoTX

You have a wise perspective on life. God bless you and your family.


70 posted on 06/18/2016 10:58:41 AM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I was somewhat in evolved in one, the ghetto dwellers robbed the cashier at my friends family run car wash i worked summers there

one of the gentle giants made the mistake of running my way i was armed with one of the steam guns stuck it in his chest neck and face he went down in a whimper cops were there in minutes no one hurt but burnt boy


71 posted on 06/18/2016 12:25:25 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: Kaslin

Obviously, if caught in a situation like this, the thing to do is try to make your way to the door. Remove the “No Guns Allowed” sign from the window. Take the sign back inside with you and confront the shooter with it. Trust me, he’ll be mortified by his foolish mistake.


72 posted on 06/18/2016 5:42:47 PM PDT by Jaxter (Si vis pacem para bellum.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

True. But too many snowflakes today have never been in a true crisis situation and their “Do Something, Even if It’s Wrong” is to cower in a corner and wait for someone to come to their rescue.

I’m definitely no hero and don’t want to die before God decides it’s my time and I may be a oldster and blond, but just to stand there or cower in a corner is just not in my playbook.


73 posted on 06/19/2016 3:16:28 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: al baby
“Don’t know why a bunch of able bodied like minded men did not storm the guy .......”

Perhaps the fact was that they were queers just might have something to do with their being ‘gun averse’, so they were not armed.

IIRC, in the queer community, violence is acceptable in a sexual context. Real life violence as in taking a chance of getting shot while attacking a murderer - not so much, evidently.

However, the real cause of the Pulse massacre is Islam, because Islam requires Muslims to use violence to subjugate unbelievers.

My tagline summarizes the situation.

74 posted on 06/20/2016 2:42:58 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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