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Minimum Wage vs. the Carwasheros: New York's new $15 wage floor pits man against machine.
Reason ^ | June 9, 2016 | Jim Epstein

Posted on 06/09/2016 9:29:35 AM PDT by C19fan

Labor activists have long claimed that working conditions at New York City's car washes are the worst of the worst. In the Big Apple, an estimated 5,000 men scrub and vacuum other people's vehicles for a living. A decade ago, it was common for these so-called carwasheros, many of whom are illegal immigrants from Mexico and Latin America, to earn $3 per hour plus tips, with no extra pay for overtime. Straight cash, off the books.

When demand peaked in the winter months, they would often put in 12 hours a day, six days a week. Regulators paid little attention, so by and large car wash operators ignored labor laws.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economics; labor; wages
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To: dfwgator

Rose Royce *ping*


21 posted on 06/09/2016 10:25:32 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Blue Jays

“Mark my words that a typical fast-food restaurant can essentially be made self-opening, self-cooking, self-cleaning, and self-closing within the next five years. That technology will not be difficult at all.”

Indeed. Much, probably most, of the technology already exists, or is in development, and/or simply needs to be downsized from large food factories.

It won’t be long until drop-in, fully-automated mini-food factories will be installed in most fast-food restaurants.

Really, the only holdup is economics, that is, the cost of automation still exceeds the current labor cost model. But shortly after those cost models shift the other way, we’ll see full-blown automation set in, and $15.00/hr minimum wage, continuous employee lawsuits, and voluminous, onerous labor regulations will all accelerate when the shift occurs.

Wendy’s has already committed to order automation in all of its restaurants. The rest of the industry will soon follow on that one as soon as they see how it goes for Wendy’s. This piecemeal automation will continue, replacing individual tasks, such as frying, with individual robotic units. Eventually we’ll see full automation.

Ultimately, automation will provide more consistent and higher-quality output, a safer and more pleasant dining experience, and robots won’t spit in your food as often as human employees.


22 posted on 06/09/2016 10:27:41 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: heartwood

In my neck of the woods, waitresses were paid less than minimum wage.


23 posted on 06/09/2016 10:28:31 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: catnipman

"...Ultimately, automation will provide more consistent and higher-quality output, a safer and more pleasant dining experience, and robots won’t spit in your food as often as human employees..."


Completely agree, catnipman.

Sitting at a corporate HQ console a technician will be able to unlock doors to the mini food factory, switch-on the cooking devices, monitor the facility, and close it. Once closed, technicians will even be able to execute scrub commands and steam-clean everything top-to-bottom.

Customers will like it because they will be able to type their exact preferences on a keypad. Want that burger well-done, without pickles, yet with regular ketchup and extra mustard? No problemo. Just keystroke it that way and confirm order at end.

Good job there, minimum wage maniacs...you are rapidly escorting yourselves right out of employment due to all your unwarranted screeching and whining.


24 posted on 06/09/2016 10:48:54 AM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: C19fan

They raided some car washes in the bay area for labor law violations. Then the car washes got more expensive.


25 posted on 06/09/2016 10:56:12 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Graybeard58

I tried a search, but didn’t come with much. The government defines tipped employee as someone who regularly receives more than $30/month in tips.

I want to know what workers receive tips in common practice.

Waiters, bartenders, valet parkers. I always tip cabdrivers and hairdressers.

I imagine doormen in fancy apartment buildings get at least minimum wage even if they get generous tips as well. Concierges? I think many hotels use independent contractor concierges and may not pay them at all.

According to the US Dept of Labor, “the tip credit claimed by the employer cannot exceed the amount of tips actually received by the tipped employee.” The maximum tip credit is the difference between minimum required cash wage (2.13/hr) and minimum wage (7.25/hr).

That would mean that if someone like a washero averages only $2/hr in tips, the employer would have to make up the difference and pay 5.25/hr, not 2.13. Not that an illegal alien is likely to bring suit.

For young workers under 20 y.o., like camp counselors, an employer may pay only 4.25/hr for the first 90 consecutive days of employment.


26 posted on 06/09/2016 11:04:35 AM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: Blue Jays

The Chik-fil-A situation is very interesting. If you were to put up a sign that said “Help wanted, particularly Christians” you would be in some mighty deep stuff with the EEOC and nine yards of aggrieved parties. But, simply have a policy of being closed on Sundays and you have no problem. From my experience dining in Chik-fil-A restaurants over the past 22 years, the employees are a real cut above. They draw from a much better talent pool than the average fast food joint.

So, the lesson is, while you cannot discriminate in the employment process on the basis of [a very long list of characteristics, including religion] you can accomplish proxy discrimination by changing the game. Resulting in much better employees and much more satisfied customers.


27 posted on 06/09/2016 2:39:58 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

A grocery store owner in a certain small town would never announce job openings, he just put an ad on the bulletin board of his local Mennonite church.

One or two men would work there doing the heavy lifting, the rest were Mennonite girls wearing the head covering and long dresses, and he seemed to pick them for good looks. If you struck up a conversation they were friendly enough, and always invited you to one church function or another. But I also noted that any girl who got too relaxed around the customers, disappeared instantly and permanently.

No one got social justice on him about his hiring practices, and people really liked shopping there. His church thrived.


28 posted on 06/09/2016 2:49:25 PM PDT by Ketill Frostbeard ("Go not a step from your door unarmed, travel armed for war, you may at any time need a spear." ODIN)
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To: tbw2

yes and more automated crop machines when they can’t get cheap illegal help.

it amazes me why most liberals want more unskilled and semiskilled workers refugees illegals etc, when the economy is being technologized rapidly and skills will be needed. if they can’t work who is going to support them?


29 posted on 06/09/2016 5:16:12 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: rolling_stone

And unemployment for Americans with less than a high school diploma is around 33%. We have plenty of unskilled unemployed people HERE. No need to import more.


30 posted on 06/09/2016 6:56:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

"...From my experience dining in Chik-fil-A restaurants over the past 22 years, the employees are a real cut above..."


You can say that again, FRiend.

I simply do not know *how* they do it in a crowded market.
They obviously have a hiring formula that attracts a pleasant personality.

They even make food recommendations:
"Sir / Ma'am, if you are seeking a low-calorie dessert with lots of protein, the yogurt with fruit and granola is one of my favorites"...and so on.
How helpful!

They might be one of the only fast-food places that might survive the arrival of greater automation. If out driving the interstates I will literally wait 20 miles to eat there rather than other choices. One has to reward their decency.


31 posted on 06/09/2016 8:04:53 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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