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America is tired of being the world’s protector. We have been warned
UK Telegraph ^ | June 2,2016 | Frazer Nelson

Posted on 06/03/2016 8:00:01 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Even Barack Obama has been tiring of European uselessness. He recently admitted that he had to threaten to end the “special relationship” with Britain before David Cameron agreed to spend the Nato minimum on defence. Even then, Mr Cameron used smoke and mirrors, counting military pensions and intelligence in the total figure.

So at a time when the US stumps up 72 per cent of total Nato spending, the puzzle is not why Americans should be growing fed up with it all. The puzzle is why their patience (and generosity) has endured for so long.

Does that all sound too crazy? Trump loves crazy. It’s not clear why, if elected, he would not follow through on what he proposes. He has given clear notice: that he thinks America “can’t afford to protect the world any more” and is looking for excuses to withdraw. So a man who stands a terrifyingly high chance of being the next American president is ready for the quick end of Nato. The question is: are we?

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; freeloaders; germany; nato; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 06/03/2016 8:00:01 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Trump should strongly use the carrot and stick to get Eurooe to man up or give up.


2 posted on 06/03/2016 8:02:20 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: Hojczyk

What are they talking about “protecting the world”?

We haven’t done that since WWII.

Since then it’s all been neocon games with people’s lives and wallet.

More accurate to say we can’t afford the neocons anymore.


3 posted on 06/03/2016 8:04:11 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Hojczyk
The main check on Russian expansionism is Nato, a defence alliance which shields Europe under America’s nuclear umbrella. It’s now seen by a growing number of Americans as a scam, abused by freeloading Europeans...

Maybe we're tired of being played for fools by European (so-called) elites.

4 posted on 06/03/2016 8:04:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (When Hillarys Foundation gets a million only $30K goes to charity. Where's the effing press outrage?)
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To: MichaelCorleone
We pay for all the crap... and if it weren't for our strength Russia would have annexed them years ago.

In return Europe mocks us and ‘forgets’ to pay their share of the rent. Eff ‘em.

5 posted on 06/03/2016 8:05:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (When Hillarys Foundation gets a million only $30K goes to charity. Where's the effing press outrage?)
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To: Hojczyk

Right now, the USA is TIRED and NEEDS to REBUILD itself.


6 posted on 06/03/2016 8:08:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Paladin2

IMHO NATO needs to be dissolved. We should build another, similar, alliance but one that includes Russia(for the price of behaving somewhat better with their neighbors) and does not include countries that are not willing to pay their fair share, are too far along the islamization process, or are our enemies (Turkey).


7 posted on 06/03/2016 8:08:59 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (Three Percenter - Cruz/West)
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To: GOPJ

To defend the EU, which has the kind of dictatorial control over Europe the Soviets could only dream of.


8 posted on 06/03/2016 8:09:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hojczyk

Trump is right, the others have lounged in a Sugar Daddied state, bragging how awesome their lives are without mentioning that they couldn’t do it without Daddy.


9 posted on 06/03/2016 8:09:35 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Hojczyk

Feel the fear. The fear that they would have to pay for their own lunch.


10 posted on 06/03/2016 8:10:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Hojczyk

Europe can defend itself. We don’t need to be there.


11 posted on 06/03/2016 8:11:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: GOPJ
Not only do they mock us, they go on vacation. We subsidize their vacations and safety.

Some Repubs don't like domestic welfare, but they love foreign welfare.

12 posted on 06/03/2016 8:12:36 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: dfwgator

....Yet it could very easy start to fall apart if and I say if the UK decides to LEAVE.


13 posted on 06/03/2016 8:12:45 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

I hope your right, but they won’t give up that easily.


14 posted on 06/03/2016 8:13:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Biggirl

Yes, thanks for saying that Biggirl, lets look out for our own damned selves for a while, I wonder why is it outside of private charity Americans feel the need to be cucks to the entire world, I never understood that.


15 posted on 06/03/2016 8:16:40 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: dfwgator

Had seen a poll that 52% support leaving the EU.


16 posted on 06/03/2016 8:16:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Hojczyk
The puzzle is why their patience (and generosity) has endured for so long.

[raises hand] OH, I know! I know!

Because ordinary everyday Americans have had no say in it?

17 posted on 06/03/2016 8:17:13 AM PDT by Envisioning (4.13.15 - That awkward moment in history when 53 million racists became sexists...)
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To: Hojczyk

The social welfare state that is Europe is only possible because the money they should be spending on defense they do not have to and they know it.

Liberalism dies quickly when mommy and daddy aren’t footing your bills.


18 posted on 06/03/2016 8:18:15 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: CodeToad

>>Europe can defend itself. We don’t need to be there.

Europe shows no signs of finding its balls anytime soon.. They are doomed to be conquered one way or the other. It’s better they fall to the Russians than the Muslims.


19 posted on 06/03/2016 8:18:16 AM PDT by vikingd00d (nulla seruitus turpior est quam uoluntaria -- Seneca)
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To: Biggirl

Well, even the Soviet Union did eventually fall.


20 posted on 06/03/2016 8:18:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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