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Trump: Cincinnati Zoo didn’t “have a choice” to kill gorilla Harambe
WHIO ^ | 5/31/16

Posted on 05/31/2016 10:30:40 AM PDT by Faith Presses On

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To: Dilbert San Diego

No, I love animal kind considerably more than I love mankind.

That’s not to say that I don’t love certain people very much, but generally speaking, as a species, mankind mostly sucks.


41 posted on 05/31/2016 11:04:58 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Faith Presses On

Trump is right.

There was no choice. The little boy’s life was in danger.

It’s very sad that the gorilla had to die.

Although I know every parent could and have taken their eyes off of their children for even a split second, I still blame the parent in charge. What if they had been visiting the Grand Canyon and the kid and slipped over the edge? It could have been a worse tragedy, with a gorilla AND child dead.


42 posted on 05/31/2016 11:05:25 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Faith Presses On

That kid was toast, to put it bluntly. That animal viewed that kid as his prize. In the wild, they will kill their offspring if they view them as a threat to the troop. Most times it is males who did not have anything to do with the breeding of the youngster.
Just watch at how fast he went through the water with that kid. In a few more moments he would have torn the arms off that kid.
I would imagine that the strenght of that animal is equal to about a lot very well built humans.


43 posted on 05/31/2016 11:11:40 AM PDT by crz
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To: Faith Presses On

Another Freeper had a good point. Suppose the gorilla had killed the black child. Then there’d be outrage that the zoo did not rush to the child’s aid and instead, irresponsibly allowed the gorilla to kill him, just because the child was black. They’d be angry that the gorilla was NOT killed. There’s no way the zoo could have won no matter what they did.


44 posted on 05/31/2016 11:17:13 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: McGruff
I can't believe some reporter would ask this question of Donald Trump. Trying to get Trump to say something they can portray negatively? How about asking Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders the same question?

Yet look at the sophistication of his answer. This supposedly "crude" candidate totally framed his position from the point of view of motherhood and the protection of the child, insisting on the shooting for that reason while regretting it's necessity.

Trump isn't crude. Trump's a dancer.

45 posted on 05/31/2016 11:19:17 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Imagine the outrage in the black community had that gorilla killed or maimed that little black boy. BLM would be all over this and it would be 24/7 in the media. If that child was white, I’m not so sure the authorities would’ve shot that gorilla. Yeah, I’m serious. Killing the gorilla was in part a socio-political decision to avert riots and all out chaos. I am dead serious. THINK ABOUT IT.


46 posted on 05/31/2016 11:20:43 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

“The appropriate answer to the question ... “

Yer right. A politician would have ducked the question or said “No comment.” Like Sanders.
But not Trump. It was a good answer from a guy who hasn’t yet learned to crayfish/suck eggs, and prolly won’t


47 posted on 05/31/2016 11:20:45 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Famed Animal Expert Jack Hanna Says Gorilla Would Have Killed Boy

http://womanista.com/2016/05/30/famed-animal-expert-jack-hanna-says-gorilla-would-have-killed-bo/


48 posted on 05/31/2016 11:21:48 AM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Let's Roll; GraceG
“If the zoo hadn’t taken out the gorilla to save the kid and the kid was injured or died the same people would be whining about “ how a black kid was injured or killed so that white people could see the gorillas at the zoo.”

They’re actually upset because they didn’t get the outcome you suggest.

At first it was thought to be a Caucasian child and the #BLM folks were saying that "white people don't know how to watch they kids". It's all about race.....doncha know

49 posted on 05/31/2016 11:22:44 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! Prayers for Trump and family)
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To: chris37
I mourn the loss of the gorilla

Did you also mourn the loss of a few million chickens, cows and fish that were killed this month? If not why not?

50 posted on 05/31/2016 11:26:48 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: CAluvdubya

The gorilla needed to be euthanized, however the parents also NEED consequences for letting this happen!!! The kids dad has a rap sheet a mile long just got out of prison, mother let kid wander off seems to be a VERY irresponsible family ALL AROUND!!!! the mother should bare some responsibility !!!!


51 posted on 05/31/2016 11:29:35 AM PDT by Kit cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: bigtoona

I recall in 1987 a couple of boys snuck back into the zoo (Propect Park NYC)after a class trip. One of the boys went into the polar bear enclosure, his friend heard his cries but since the park was closed help did not come in time for him. They found his partial remains later. Both polar bears were killed later.


52 posted on 05/31/2016 11:32:53 AM PDT by mware
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To: Wolfie

Especially when the zoo sues them back for not controlling their kid.


53 posted on 05/31/2016 11:32:53 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: crz

“I would imagine that the strength of that animal is equal to about a lot very well built humans.”

Not equal. . .FAR exceeding the strength of any human.


54 posted on 05/31/2016 11:36:23 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: MD Expat in PA

Stop pulling content out of context. Why did you do that? Anti-Trump?


55 posted on 05/31/2016 11:37:56 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SandRat
But Jessie Jackson an Al Sharton Object because the Gorilla was Black.

So's the kid.


56 posted on 05/31/2016 11:41:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Faith Presses On

Petition to hold the kid’s parents responsible:

https://www.change.org/p/cincinnati-zoo-justice-for-harambe


57 posted on 05/31/2016 11:43:05 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: mware

Youths Enter Bear Cage; 1 Is Killed, 2 Flee in Terror

May 20, 1987|JOHN J. GOLDMAN | Times Staff Writer

NEW YORK — A young boy was mauled to death by two polar bears after closing hours Tuesday at the Prospect Park Zoo in Brooklyn and authorities at first feared that the animals had devoured two other youngsters.

But the two other youths were later located by police and were unharmed, according to wire service reports. The two bears were slain by repeated blasts from police shotguns.

The dead boy, identified as Juan Perez, 11, of Brooklyn, was partially devoured by the bears.

Police said that the three youths apparently entered the bear enclosure sometime after the zoo closed at 5 p.m. The area is guarded by a tall, barred fence but it would not be too difficult for children to get inside, zoo officials said.

New York City Park Commissioner Henry Stern said that when the first police officers arrived at the zoo after a report of screams coming from the zoo, they saw two youngsters running away with their clothing in disarray. But the officers did not immediately associate these youths with the reported screams.

The officers at first could not get inside the zoo and had to wait until a keeper arrived to unlock a gate. As they neared the polar bear enclosure with its caves and a swimming moat, the officers saw the remains of the child being mauled by the two huge bears.

Members of the Police Department’s emergency service unit were hastily summoned, and it took 20 shots from their shotguns to kill the animals.

Medical Examiner Summoned

When sneakers, three pairs of pants and two unmatched shoes were found in the enclosure, the officers, fearing that other boys had been killed, summoned the city’s chief medical examiner and a veterinarian to the scene to conduct autopsies on Teddy, the 33-year-old, 1,400-pound male bear, and Lucy, his 32-year-old female companion. Lucy weighed 900 pounds.

The two boys who accompanied Perez were taken to police by their parents when they returned home safely but without any clothes, Police spokesman Peter O’Donnell said. The boys, who were not immediately identified by authorities, told investigators that they went to the zoo to swim in the moat surrounding the bear cage.

O’Donnell said the three youths took off their clothes to swim, but when two of them decided that they were too scared to enter the cage, a third boy threw their clothes onto the rocks inside the bear’s enclosure.

Perez and another boy went into the cage to retrieve the clothes, and as Perez crossed the moat to get his garments, his friend stayed near the fence outside the moat, O’Donnell said.

Squirmed Through Fence

“At about that point the bears awoke, “ O’Donnell said. “The first one comes down and does nothing, just looks at the kids. Then the second one comes down and grabs Juan and drags him up the rocks into the cave.”

As Perez was carried into the bears’ lair, the second youth who accompanied him squirmed through the fence to safety, O’Donnell said.

As word of the tragedy spread, additional police and rescue personnel gathered at the zoo while the medical examiner and the veterinarian performed the autopsies under bright floodlights. Shortly before 11 p.m., Stern announced that the autopsy on the male bear had revealed no additional bodies. A few minutes later, he told a crowd of reporters the autopsy on the female bear was also negative.

Mayor Edward I. Koch, who rushed to the zoo—near the site of Ebbets Field, the Dodgers’ old stadium in Brooklyn—was noticeably shaken after telling reporters that the first police officers on the scene had seen the bears devouring the child. “Obviously, it was a horrendous


58 posted on 05/31/2016 11:43:21 AM PDT by mware
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To: itsahoot

Don’t bother me with your stupid questions.


59 posted on 05/31/2016 11:47:29 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37; tumblindice
He was right in those observations.

You mean this observation?

“It was amazing because there were moments with the gorilla, the way he held the child, it was almost like a mother holding a baby. It looked so beautiful and calm.”

I sure hope that wasn’t the way Melania held baby Barron. LOL! J/K

Especially when the gorilla was dragging the kid around by the leg through the water and at one point slamming the kid’s head against the concrete. The gorilla wasn’t “calm” - he was highly agitated, perhaps at first curious about the kid but anyone who knows anything about male gorillas knows that they are not “gentile giants” and the males have no “mothering” instincts.

Trump IMO should have refused to answer the question instead of saying that or should have only said and stopped at - “I don’t think they had a choice.”

Yer right. A politician would have ducked the question or said “No comment.” Like Sanders. But not Trump. It was a good answer from a guy who hasn’t yet learned to crayfish/suck eggs, and prolly won’t

Was Sanders asked that question and did he really say “no comment” or are you just making that up? If he did say that, I’d be surprised but would have to give Sanders credit for giving the appropriate response to such a stupid question of a presidential candidate.

As to Trump, he needs to, just like he should with his Twitter account, take a few seconds to think about what he is saying before he says it. Why spout off on something that he obviously wasn’t really informed on responding on.

60 posted on 05/31/2016 12:08:43 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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