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F/A-18F Mishap off coast of North Carolina (Collision)
US Navy ^ | May 26 | Staff

Posted on 05/26/2016 10:16:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy

NORFOLK, VA. (NNS) -- Two F/A-18F Super Hornets assigned to Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 211 flying off the coast of Cape Hatteras were involved in an in-flight mishap at approximately 10:40 a.m. local time. The flight was part of a routine training mission.

All aircrew have been recovered and are en route to medical facilities for evaluation.

The F/A-18F is a two-seat aircraft. VFA-211 is based at Naval Air Station Oceana.

A safety investigation will be carried out to determine the cause of the accident.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: capehatteras; f18; hatteras; nasoceana; navu; navy; planecrash; usn
All 4 pilots alive:

http://wtkr.com/2016/05/26/report-of-plane-collision-off-north-carolina-coast/

1 posted on 05/26/2016 10:16:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Fishermen became fishers of men.

Well done, lads.


2 posted on 05/26/2016 10:22:46 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

All 4 pilots alive:
http://wtkr.com/2016/05/26/report-of-plane-collision-off-north-carolina-


3 posted on 05/26/2016 10:23:01 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PghBaldy

How is at that two tiny, tiny, tiny objects under control of pilots and ground control manage to run into each other? The sky is mighty, mighty big.

(if that is what happened)


4 posted on 05/26/2016 10:30:37 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

When flying in formation they may be only a few feet apart in that big old sky.


5 posted on 05/26/2016 10:33:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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To: PghBaldy
All 4 pilots alive:

Thank you,Lord.

We can build more planes.

6 posted on 05/26/2016 10:39:28 AM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: mbarker12474
Probably air combat training. I was reading a great article recently, and read a cool account of the adversary plane used by Top Gun (USN) and they used an F-16N (a modified F16 which they made a very limited number of) which was apparently a pretty hot plane.

Usually once a year as both schools’ schedules allowed, we would meet at Nellis or Miramar for an exchange of the latest information and to do a little 1 V 1 flying. During one of these exchanges I remember going out into the SOCAL restricted airspace area in an F-16N with an F-15C. As I recall, most of the engagements ended up relatively neutral… except for one.

On this particular engagement I, with probably less than 100 hours in the F-16, was rapidly becoming offensive on the F-15, whose FWS instructor pilot probably had 2000 hours in the Eagle. Something was just not adding up, but I accredited it to my superior airmanship, and that was a mistake! He started going vertical and I, slightly in lag, started right up behind him. As we were pointed straight up, I saw this barn door size panel open on the top of his jet (speedbrake) and quickly realized that I had a lot of closure on him. At that point I transitioned to panic and collision avoidance mode. I successfully streaked right past him vertically, and as I did I noticed the barn door closing.

Within a few seconds I had gone from a windscreen full of F-15, to looking back over my shoulder, straight down at him, trapped exactly where he wanted me to be; completely in control, at my six o’clock. He had baited me, and I had taken it hook, line, and sinker. We both had a good laugh about it in the debrief and I’ll bet he’s told that story a hundred times since!

Ya gotta love it...he must have had to change his underwear! Things can happen pretty dang fast up there...

7 posted on 05/26/2016 10:45:10 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: mbarker12474
How is at that two tiny, tiny, tiny objects under control of pilots and ground control manage to run into each other?

They are not under ground control. The area where they were flying is a Warning Area (W-122) where military aircraft are free to maneuver. It is what is called MARSA (Military Assumes Responsibility for Separation of Aircraft) meaning it is visual and onboard RADAR. They were, most-likely doing defensive tactics (DEFTAC) and impacted during the merge.

8 posted on 05/26/2016 10:47:10 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: PghBaldy

Bravo Zulu to the quick response of the rescue teams. As a former ABH, I would rather lose 2 Super Hornets than 4 aircrew Men, planes can be replaced pilots can’t!


9 posted on 05/26/2016 10:55:21 AM PDT by Trueblackman (No way in GOD's name I'm voting for 2 New York Liberals in 2016 because their cultists say so!)
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To: Trueblackman

Absolutely, TBM...absolutely.


10 posted on 05/26/2016 11:04:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: rjsimmon

Refueling is another possibility


11 posted on 05/26/2016 11:11:14 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

Would not have affected both aircraft. Formation flying would have damaged both aircraft but probably not bad enough to ditch unless -2 was closing too fast. If that were the case, then the WSOs from both a/c were at fault as well as the pilot in -2.


12 posted on 05/26/2016 11:16:31 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: mbarker12474

Tiny objects? Guess you’ve never been close to an F-18. : )


13 posted on 05/26/2016 11:23:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: arthurus
When flying in formation they may be only a few feet apart in that big old sky.

I saw the Blue Angels perform at an Air Force Base near me a couple of years ago.They were flying so fast...so close to the ground...so close *to each other* that I was fully expecting a shower of aircraft parts and pilots' bodies before the show was over!

14 posted on 05/26/2016 11:25:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: mbarker12474
You always fly with your wingman. It's not like they were separated by nearly infinite distances then coincidentally hit each other.

Sometimes the wingman tucks in for a "parade pass". Too close and the airflow between planes will suck them together. Some of those just rip and dent, some cause catastrauphic damage.

15 posted on 05/26/2016 11:49:41 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: exit82

Amen to that!


16 posted on 05/26/2016 12:08:32 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: exit82

Couldn’t agree more with you! These pilots are the best of the best for our country and living in Virginia Beach and working at NASA Langley in Hampton, I have the chance to see the USN and the USAF planes flying out each day for training off of the coast. Our country’s defense rests on the shoulders of these incredible people and I am thankful for what they do to protect all of us. Pray for their safety and if you get a chance to meet one of them, thank them for their service. For those of us who have served, we know the burden and sacrifices paid by our service members that permits all of us to sleep more easily at night.


17 posted on 05/26/2016 12:28:42 PM PDT by ConchKarl (From a member of the Herd, 173rd)
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To: exit82

“Thank you,Lord.
We can build more planes.”

Once Trump gets in and they get the money to build more planes.


18 posted on 05/26/2016 1:21:35 PM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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