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Syria conflict: IS 'destroyed helicopters' at Russian base
BBC.com ^ | May 24, 2016 | BBC

Posted on 05/24/2016 11:47:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

New satellite imagery appears to reveal extensive damage to a strategically significant airbase in central Syria used by Russian forces after an attack by so-called Islamic State (IS).

Four helicopters and 20 lorries were destroyed in a series of fires inside the T4 base last week, the images from intelligence company Stratfor suggest.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: isis; russiasyria

1 posted on 05/24/2016 11:47:18 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sounds like “we” helped.


2 posted on 05/24/2016 11:53:17 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Well, this conflict does look more and more like a proxy war with the US on the side of the worse terrorists, so that is plausible.


3 posted on 05/24/2016 11:55:57 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: treetopsandroofs

CIA


4 posted on 05/24/2016 11:56:16 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Shoigu warned that Moscow reserves the right to unilaterally strike militants refusing to respect the cease-fire, as well as weapons and militants crossing into Syria from Turkey, starting from May 25.”

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/310d249b33584124b6bd73d124ef4282/russia-calls-joint-action-us-against-nusra-front


5 posted on 05/24/2016 12:00:09 PM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If this actually happened, one would suspect US role in this, unfortunately we are allied with IS and AQ now.

However, this may be a fake, for two reasons:

Russian Ministry of Defense denies losing any helicopters (or personnel) in Palmyra.

The supplied photos appear to be processed with Photoshop, in exactly the places that show damaged craft. However, there seems to be a twist here: per analysis on a Russian site, destroyed craft is genuine... but the photos with the original craft were photoshopped.

I'm not digging further into this myself, but here is the link to the Russian site that talks about this: http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/1359221.html

6 posted on 05/24/2016 12:04:41 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Russia denies this.

Russia has about 2000 helicopters.

7 posted on 05/24/2016 12:05:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Berlin_Freeper

8 posted on 05/24/2016 12:44:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Truth29

The “Cold War” has moved into a different phase.

The Cold War with the Soviet Union was pretty much put into stasis while Ronaldus Magnus was at the levers of power. Any time the Democrats get back into power, all these ramifications and aspects of the Cold War seem to get reactivated and whipped into a lot of paranoid frenzy. Whether it is because of a tacit agreement by the fuzzy thinkers in this country, and the really hard-headed realists that have always dominated in the Russian motherland, the Russians’ greatest advances always come when the adults are not permitted back in the room here in the territory once known as “the United States of America”.


9 posted on 05/24/2016 12:57:02 PM PDT by alloysteel (The Triumph of Trump - finally, does the hegemony of the Republican elites get broken?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

10 posted on 05/24/2016 12:59:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

BBC is a pretty reliable source.

At the end of the story, they bring this around to the supply lines between the ISIS capital of Raqqa, and the major city of Homs.

The gist is that the Syrian Army, backed up by the Russians and Iranians, has been having a bit more of a fight from ISIS than hoped - and that ISIS supply line remains open.

This may effect the operation that just launched against Raqqa from the North by the Kurds/SDF, perhaps slowing the timeline somewhat. Perhaps the Kurds/SDF will just draw up close to the city, dig in a half cordon and hold, until conditions are set (or until they get a better deal on Manbij/Jarabulus).

We will see when the air attacks pick up in earnest on Raqqa.

Raqqa’s three main supply lines are SW across the center toward Homs, West toward Turkey and Aleppo (past Tabaqa Air Base), or SE down the river toward Dier ez Zour.

It looks to me like Syrian/Russian priority of fire is going to the battle around Aleppo city, rather than isolating Raqqa - looks like that is being left mostly to Americans, if they will step up to do it.

Again, if we see significant air assets hitting ISIS around Raqqa, that would be perhaps the best indicator that it is showtime for clearing ISIS from Raqqa.

My guess is that the external players will continue to drag out the end game while trying to improve their positions, but that the US will seek some high profile victories over ISIS, for political purposes in an election year. Raqqa could go down anytime the US supplies the money, weapons, ammo and air strikes to do it. It certainly seems like that day is approaching, well before the election.

The ISIS caliphate could just collapse at any point from the combined pressures they are under, and convert to a terrorist franchise, but the Saudis and Turks will probably try to keep the dream alive with money and weapons...


11 posted on 05/24/2016 1:02:45 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s not a good idea to mess with a bear’s cub.


12 posted on 05/24/2016 1:22:33 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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13 posted on 05/24/2016 1:24:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
LOL!


14 posted on 05/24/2016 1:31:00 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: BeauBo; Berlin_Freeper
This report may or may not be true but when it comes to the present conflict in Syria I cannot accept that the BBC is a pretty reliable source. They are very clearly against Assad (that includes the Russians) and pro the 'opposition' (which includes Daesh).
15 posted on 05/24/2016 1:59:54 PM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Vietnam deja vu”

On the early morning of 1 July 1965 the PAVN and Vietcong launched a mortar and sapper attack on the [Da Nang], destroying one F-102 and two C-130s and damaging a further two F-102s and one C-130.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Nang_Air_Base


16 posted on 05/25/2016 5:33:51 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: mvonfr
Fake?


17 posted on 05/26/2016 12:10:14 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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