Posted on 05/20/2016 7:34:08 AM PDT by C19fan
Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I’d earn the ire of a character named Turd Flinging Monkey, the nom de plume of a popular online activist. A leader in the Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movement, which encourages men to avoid romantic relationships with women, Monkey did not take kindly to my new Prager University video talking up the benefits of marriage for men.
In the video, I noted, among other things, that married men work harder (about 400 more hours), smarter (they’re less likely to quit without having found another job), and more successfully (they make about $16,000 more per year) than their single peers. I described these as features, not bugs, of married life for men.
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Many people of both genders are too used to getting their own way personally. I know people who, in a strange dichotomy, work like dogs and put crazy hours into their successful careers (and who clearly have good working relationships in their careers), who can’t, nor even really try, to maintain successful personal relationships. It’s a result of being porn-addled, non or anti-religious, unschooled in personal communications — which makes them completely selfish at a fundamental level. They can’t fathom the amount of “give” required to justify the amount of “take” they expect from their personal relationships.
I have a feeling this is going to be a ‘fun’ thread.
My own contribution then is this:
I’m happily married, but before I got here I was in a marriage where I was the one who had to sacrifice everything for the sake of the marriage. In her defense though she saw what she was doing, (only after she left me for a fresh ‘suckee’) and graciously conceded to a relatively bloodless divorce. I even got custody of our three children. Frankly she couldn’t take being around them, they took time from her pursuing her desires and were a responsibility she gladly dumped on me.
But now? Now I’m very happy and very content in my life now.
On the other hand I do understand why the MGTOW movement is gaining adherents, particularly among the children of divorce.
“I have known more men destroyed by the desire to have wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink and harlots.” - poet William Butler Yeats.
My wife announced yesterday (May 19) that she is leaving, to move out of state, to be with her “Facebook” boyfriend. Good riddance to her cheating royal highness.
And my first wife was a harpy, that *I* couldn’t stand anymore, and I can tolerate almost anything.
I’m done with women. Never again. I’ve learned my lessons well.
Maybe I took longer than the rat in a cage learned to jump when the light comes on, from getting electrocuted when the light comes on. But I’ve learned, finally.
NAWALT? Not all women are like that? ROTFLMAO.
EWALT. ENOUGH WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.
+1
Gosh, you sound so attractive, why are you available?
;-)
-JF
I would clarify that by “personal relationship” I meant to say “romantic relationship.” I know guys who are great fun to be around in a group of guys, who will go out of their way to “help a brother out,” and yet I just shake my head at the way they view women.
Considering all of these issues and troubles, what we’re seeing makes sense.
It makes sense for men to avoid marriage.
Marriage has always been something of a leap of faith.
But in today’s world, I can understand men who weigh the factors and decide marriage is not for them.
Men can be happy with dating and enjoying female companionship without all the downsides of marriage, then one can understand them doing so.
I was shocked to learn that under no-fault divorce laws in my state, a spouse who separates, but is still legally married, can nonetheless sleep around as much as they want. It is not considered “adultery” if they have separated. Yet someone will still be on the hook for support and alimony when it becomes final.
You might term this a disincentive, yes. And it can be worse. I lost a friend to suicide from being denied access to his daughters out of a spiteful and false accusation of child molestation. That can be a very difficult thing to forget.
Trick question. With a credit card, the cost is unlimited.
That wisdom comes more easily after having lived the other side and being screwed anyways. Don't hate the gals, just allergic to the handcuffs.
I’m not sure why Jezebel gets this credit. It goes all the way back to Lilith. That’s why the hard core feminists worship her as a goddess.
Some men like to wallow in their loserness.
Liberal victim worldview.
Sorry to hear that,bp.
No words of wisdom, just a wish for you to emerge from this with a modicum of happiness.
You are speaking my language, Red Piller.
I had one of these. The problem was mostly Lucas.
I see what you did there :)
“I noted, among other things, that married men work harder (about 400 more hours), smarter (they’re less likely to quit without having found another job), and more successfully (they make about $16,000 more per year) than their single peers.”
Except that most of that money (and half of everything else) will go to the wife in a divorce. All together a huge loss for the man.
Well, it’s predictable. If women settle for trashy men, men have little motivation to aspire to be their best.
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