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To: Sleeping Freeper

When a commercial airliner disappears from air traffic control RADAR, it first means the aircraft is no longer squawking, meaning the electronics on board are not communicating with the air traffic control system. It does not mean the RADAR stopped seeing a return, a “skin paint” from the aircraft.

It could mean it was turned off and the aircraft diverted.
It could mean the aircraft crashed.

We shall see.


9 posted on 05/18/2016 8:21:46 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag

“It could mean it was turned off and the aircraft diverted.”

Interesting point...


10 posted on 05/18/2016 8:23:21 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Blueflag
It could mean it was turned off and the aircraft diverted.

That's so 2001 /x

14 posted on 05/18/2016 8:31:41 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: Blueflag
former BRAF pilot Michael Kay on phone with MSNBC, saying blip ‘faded’ off primary radar. Sudden descent ? But that would leave a trace. A midair explosion causing parts to ‘fade’ away into the ocean ? Ten miles out would be radar rich from several adjoining countries.
23 posted on 05/18/2016 9:03:23 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: Blueflag
Well I can squawk 1200 or any other assigned transponder code and still get painted by any in-range radar sweep. It's the interrogation reply that determines what information appears on the senders radar screen. Given the realities of commercial aviation these days I think revisiting squawk protocols are in order.

A terrorist need not beat open the cockpit door--he/she/it need only (1) buy a first class ticket, (2) sit close to the flight deck, and (3) wait for one of the pilots to emerge for or return from a potty break. A flight attendant standing guard with galley cart won't stop a fast acting terrorist. Neither would air marshalls--even assuming they're seated nearby.

So let's move beyond the reactive protocol of squawking 7500 (hijack) post facto and employ a new squawk code (7501?) to indicate an authorized yet unsecured flight deck (a flight attendant in the cockpit temporarily is not a secure flight deck). Communicate and confirm with ATC before and afterward of the planned event.

Two things result: (1) ATC will be alerted and can pay special attention to the target on their radar screens and (2) an unauthorized flight deck incursion and/or jeopardy of a crew member can be quickly communicated by having to change only one squawk code digit.

Finally, once the flight deck is re-secured, it's another comm/confirm with ATC before switching back to the originally assigned IFR squawk code.

32 posted on 05/19/2016 2:36:00 PM PDT by Orbiter
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